Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

I don't think it is neccessary to send in paperwork to the FBI at this time. It says on their website to keep copies in case they need us to send in documents. I would hold off on this until they ask.... if they ever. I know several others have complained to them so they are well aware of the situation.

KPHO had released the news story and video on their website here is the link
(dot)kpho(dot)com/iteam/9492023/detail(dot)html

I just got through watching the video. I would like to know the 40,000 refunded in may - I sure haven't seen that many get refunds - They may have refunded 40,000 in bad checks. Has anyone heard anything else from the lawyers we were talking to?

They have lied to you before haven't they? Of course they will lie to the news reporters.... they have to say something. These people have no conscience at all.

I just watched the video also and it is terrible that they are saying that they didn't do business after the order ,,,,, well i know they did because i still was paying them up to september last year and the order started in july, they had no intentions of telling any of us or stop taking money out of our accounts. Where is us dagger and skipper and a few of the others?

Funny how Chris is running from the reporter, seems to me if you have nothing to hide, you tell your honest side of the story...chicken %^%$!!

I have also filed with the FTC today.

sent in my complaint - yet again to the FTC....hope this works...they need to recognize Hyla's wrong doings.

I reported earlier that I resubmitted to FCT (under guest). I also sent a letter to Felecia Rotellini
I can't believe that AZ thinks they paid everyone back.
I kinda wish I didn't have a face to match up to Hyla. I liked thinking of her looking like Cruella Divil!

Link deleted as per forum rules - Mike

For those who wanted pictures....

I sent in my complaint also.

Well, I see that the story is out now! Just don't understand how the Az. authorities believe they repaid everyone. Do we not have a voice???? We all need to contact this lady, Felecia Rotellini, and let her know she is being lied to. Surely our voice will be heard! I started giveing MMG/RMP $500 a month in January of 2004!!! They were in Az at this time doing business! I never got any money back!!! In fact, they still kept taking the $500 a month all the way until March of 2006!!! Same Fax numbers were used the whole time to contact them! I just hope someone has better proof of them working in Az. after the judgement! But why should that matter anyway!!!! They stole our money! It shouldn't matter what state they were operating in!! It is still against the law no matter what!! Why don't our elected officials get off their rich butts and set this thing straight??? Maybe we need to get O'Rielly (sp) at Fox news involved??? National attention is what we need!!! Good luck everyone, jerryhavis

I sent in all the complaints again as well!! Will get them in the mail as soon as we buy ink for the printer.

I just filed my complaint with the FTC.

I'm wondering if we should each submit multiple complaints for all of the addresses RMP/MMG has had???

I needed a good laugh - The myspace page is great.

I think the idea of e mailing the lawyer tomorrow is good. he is very defensive and like akell said he knows what is going on and where she is. lets put some pressure on him too.

Isn't it proof enough that they were operating after the order in Arizona by the fact they said they were no longer operating in Arizona but then continued with payments and such by stating they were only located in Nevada even though when we contacted Nevada they stated they couldn't do anything because it was just a p.o. box and they weren't set-up in Texas until January 2006. From Aug-January where else could they be but Arizona.

oh, I emailed his royal highness (their attorney) the news link, which he read!

His name is all over the previous court docs. He is up to his ears in this mess too and believe me he knows just what is going on. I too have received very nasty e mails. I think flooding him with e mails tomorrow will send a strong message as well. Lets do it.

www(dot)myspace(dot)com(forward slash)mmgthiefs

My last statment has both address (AZ & NV) listed on it. I think that's enough proof. I put that in my letter to Felecia Rotellini

I also filed via e-mail on the web to the FTC Monday around 2:30 eastern standard time.

Who can we contact about NOT receiving our refund, if someone thinks they paid everyone. I know I haven't recieved anything? They still have ten grand of mine!!

Thanks, Mary from Mass

I just went to the FBI web site, Tuesday morning and submitted also

Good Luck to all, let's bring these thieves to justice!!!

I am reading some of these posts and I think some are confused...maybe not but when they are talking about paying people back, I am pretty sure they are referring to those in the initial court case in Arizona. They were ordered to pay back all Arizona residents and only a handful of out-of-staters that knew about the case at that time. So I think they are trying to tell people they paid everyone back but they are not including all the people not in the case which makes up even more people than was in the case. Again, they are lying in a deceitful kind of way. They may have paid everyone back from the case in AZ but they certainly have not paid everyone back that they owe that was in the program. I am not even sure they have paid all those yet from the court case either... about a month or two ago, someone posted that they were in that case and still have not been paid. Please step up if this was you and contact the above to get your money back and to expose Hyla's lies.

I was not among those in the Arizona case, who else can we tell our story to? In hopes of getting our money back??

kpho.com/iteam/9492023/detail.html

To mfk,

These were all the same questions I came across about a year ago when I started to research all of this. Craig Rabey from the Arizona State Banking Department (the dept. that took Hyla to court for Arizona) says to me "We can not take her back to court because we already tried her and got restitution. The only people that can help you are the FTC or a private attorney."

Well, we all know where that leaves us... the FTC, because private attorneys want more money which none of us have.... as we just saw with Jay Goodman's office. This is why I keep stressing to people to keep filing complaints with the FTC. I also think the FBI would be a good one to investigate this since it was fraudulent banking across state lines. If the FBI does not want to deal with it then they will forward our complaints to the FTC. The FTC has to eventually do something because I don't think the complaints will ever end because more and more people are finding out that they too were screwed. Just keep up the complaint filing.... hey, I did this for over 6 months until I finally got my money back, well most of it.

ok my pkg was dlvrd at 923 this morning to the ftc. sent in my online on sunday night. so hopefully something will happen. i put a copy of that news article in there too, and the emails that i have gotton from hyla so i can hope that they do something and actually get back to me on this. i hope everyone else has sent in the hard copies too.

k

Hi everyone. I just found this forum yesterday, along with ripoffreport.com. Lo and behold, I have also found that I too am a victim of these people. I should have known way back then that there was something wrong when, after all the money had been collected, I couldn't get in touch with the woman who originally set up my account. These people are truly predators!

All of your information has been very helpful. I'm going to try to recoup my losses by filing reports with every consumer and criminal law enforcement available (federal and state). After that, I'll put together a press package and send out to some contacts I have in that area. Hopefully, someone out there will listen.

In the meantime, I'll have to deal with the fact that I'm probably in even more debt than I originally thought. Luckily, I'm comfortably employed right now so maybe I'll be able to work something out...

Anyway, nice to "meet" you all! I'll pass along any information that helps.

To fifi_12560.... please file immediately with the FTC.... we all ganged together yesterday and resubmitted all of our complaints. Also to the FBI. Right now, the FTC is our best hope in a) getting or money back or b) sending the stantons to prison.

Fifi ,
it is very important to contact all agencies and like us all you need to read the whole forum. So many great people have helped each other on this forum, let me know if you need some information and Good Luck!! We'll get these thieves ,
keep filing and complaining to anyone!!

I am working with Greg Dewey from Md. Attorney General's office. The one thing that's preventing further movement from any Attorney General's office is no current contact information. DOES ANYONE HAVE THEIR NEW HOME AND PHONE?

I had spoke with Howard Ain at WKRC TV in Cincinnati. The story Aired at 5:30 Today. I had talked withCraig Raybe of the Arizona State Banking Commission Today also and he did say all the judgements were from last year and since RMP quit doing business in Arizona they no longer have juristiction over they. That was this morning. I have sent complete hard copies of my signed contract and instructions with points Hylighted to Arizona,Nevada,Texas,FTC Washington. I was told to also send to my state Attorney General,IRS,AND FBI. I am goint to mail them the same packets. You should be able soon to view the story that was shown in Cincinnati to day at www(dot)wkrc(dot)com soon. Check the trouble shooter alert at that site. I don't know how the officials can't find them or proff they have robbed so many people. KPOH tv 5 in Phoenix sure showed them running on camera. choerlein(at)cinci(dot)rr(dot)com my email.

Jon Baird may have it his email address at KPHO TV is jbaird(at)kpho(dot)com Hyla and Chris Stantons Address that is. He showed them on the news.

What ever happen to the lawyer? I have sent in my complaint to everyone I can think of. And I have heard little of nothing from anyone. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. God Bless and keep the Faith that justice will be served

choerlein. hey i read the report that the news station did on your story about mmg/rmp. somebody has got to pick up on this and start some action against them with all the publicity that is getting out there. i got a response from the ftc saying they got my complaint and they would let me know if they need anything further from me. let's all hope they get the ball rolling soon. i see that there are still people just finding out about the mess that we all are and have been going through. it is terrible.

To blu32... how can I contact Greg Dewey? I would like to speak with him and I am sure Dale Boyd would too. We are both from MD too.

I am filing today with the New York State Attorney Generals Office. I am going to send them everything I have. These people must pay!!!!!

rmpsux... you should talk to citykid... he is also from New York and also filed with the States Attorney's Office. You should get his contact and write to the same person....

citykid - can you send me a PM with that information?

Their lawyer knows where they are. We need to get the FTC in contact with the lawyer.

Maybe we need to do another mass complaint to the FTC simply just stating their lawyers info.... I will research this out tonight and post it tomorrow for those who don't know. I also find it hard to believe that the government can't find them.... maybe they need to be working with their fellow agencies like the IRS.... I am sure the Stantons had to file.... or maybe the post office, I am sure they get mail. I mean Osama Bin Ladden is hard to track down, okay he is in a different country. These people can't be tracked down in the US??? Unbelievable!

I looked this up on the internet so I hope it is correct....

Michael E. Gerity
mgerity @ig-law.com
Phoenix, AZ 85016-****
Phone: (602) 387-****

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This is their attorney's correct info:

Michael Gerity
Israel & Gerity, PLLC
3300 N Central Ave, Ste 2000
Phoenix, AZ 85012
(602) 274-4400
(602) 274-4401 fax
mgerity @ig-law.com

KristieC., could the address you posted be his home address and number?

The contact I posted was straight from an email from him on 6/15/06, so it's current.

Kristie, hey it's me madmom i am sending you a email , let me know when you get it,

I just looked up 'Michael Gerity Lawyer' and then that's one of the links that came up.... it pulled up an alphebetical listing and that's what I found... I am not sure if it's his personal. Your's is the correct one if you got it directly from him.

The Stantons are still in their same home in Tempe:

Possible Personal information removed - Mike


Chris and Hyla can also be found at the new business they are scamming people with:

Chrome Lotus Wheels/Killer Kustoms
21628 North Central Avenue #6
Phoenix, AZ 85024

They are lost or running from anybody except news reporters.

The Stantons are still in 2162 East Calle De Arcos in Tempe AZ and operating their other scam business on Central Avenue in Phoenix (Chrome Lotus Wheels/Killer Kustoms). The Stantons aren't running or hiding from anybody except news reporters.

They are certainly hiding from us which is why they don't return calls or emails.