Address for Prelitigation Inc

Hi sharaylewiss!!! I haven't heard of these people my self and did some research and can't find one thing out about them-anywheres. Maybe someone else here has dealt with them and knows how they can be reached. we'll wait for someone else to come along. sorry I couldn't help more. shirley

I think they are Ellis Crosby but under another name

hi again Sharaylewiss---If they are ELLis Crosby, I didn't find anything linking the two. I did find Ellis Crosby's info But they just filed bankruptcy in Florida.
Ellis Crosby and Associates
4494 Southside Blvd, Ste 200
Jacksonville, FL 32216
Phone: (904) 928-3536
Fax: (904) 928-0722

Hey, I have an idea. First off maybe someone else here has heard of Prelitigation Inc and we can get the info from them.
BUT you can also post the phone number that they have been calling from and leaving on your answering machine to call them back with. We have some people here that can sniff out a phone number real good and that can lead to a name and address. Try that---try posting the phone number information that you have. shirley :D

Proverbs xxii & iv pre-litigations & collections
17-4 e. 43rd street
Jacksonville, fl 32206

BBB syas they are a dry cleaners?

LOL...that is pretty typical of their behavior, from what I've heard :roll:

~Mary

Just look up sunbiz.org and put in ellis, crosby and associates you will see the same address for both companies....

Just got another call from these people, spoke with LT. STeinhart,,,,,, Before he could really say anything I advised him that I do have an attorney and that I have asked these people not to call me at work and they have continued to do so, I asked him who his supervisor was and he told me it was none of my business.........then I told him he was violating laws with collections, and he told me FU and good luck and hung up, How are these people getting away with this................

Oh my. PLEASE keep track of every bit of the conversation. Write everything down. Dates and times, everything. Send a cease and desist letter as soon as possible. They are violating the law by treating you like that.

~Mary

I got a call from Prelitigation Services. I am not sure if this is the same company or not.They harrassed me something terrible at work telling me they were going to come to my work and arrest me,etc. It scared me to death. The phone number I have for them is 954-237-6824. Initially, I got a call from someone identifying themselves with United Federal Bank. However, when they were giving me instructions about where to pay, they gave me Prelitigation Services. Does this sounds familiar to anyone?

same story just a different person. they are using cell phones, cells are not governed by the FTC. to pay moneygram receive code 3567. i have already reported them to moneygram...do the same and let's shut them down as well

You reported them to MOneygram? I have not heard of this before. How does this shut them down?

the company is getting money through illegal activities. FDPCA violations. you cannot threaten, hassar... organized crimes...moneygram will stop doing business w/ them.

Ellis Crosby/United Federal Bank/Prelitigation are all the same, from what I understand.

~Mary

do not forget interstate wire compliance

I cannot confirm that Prelitigations of America and United Federal are owned jointly, however with United Federal the employees have a hard time understanding callers. P of A seems to be doing more of the threatening calls. United Federal and P of A has two different numbers with different area codes anyway. I will keep researching and let everyone know what I come up with.

Regards-
Mike

using cell phones (prepaid) is why all the different numbers are showing up

I doubt they are using prepaid cell phones. That is a very expensive option for business to be using to remain annonymous. I still believe these are 2 different businesses.

If this were the case, and they were indeed using prepaid cell phones, I would love to chat with them...find out the color of the walls in their office, ask them if they prefer gray brick walls, etc.

So, does anyone have an address for them? Can we report them to the Florida Attorney General's office without an address? I would also like to write them a cease and desist letter so they do not call me at work.

So, does anyone have an address for them? Can we report them to the Florida Attorney General's office without an address? I would also like to write them a cease and desist letter so they do not call me at work.

Guest

There is talk about this in another thread. Another guest has provided an address, but it has not been confirmed as they also threw out the name Crosby again. You can view the thread here:
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/about7244.html

Regards-
Mike

I have a problem with the name of the company. I worked for an agency that called themselves a "pre-litigation" firm. A debtor sued, and we were forced to drop that talk-off because it implied that we were a law firm. I wish I knew what state that was in so I could give you a reference. I would fight that based on the name alone, if they are not a law firm.

beatlemyn02

collection agencies are getting away with more and more these days it seems...or at least the shady ones. Chances are it is some hot shot attorney who opened up his own business and is now doing collections. Ted Crosby is a perfect example, when he had his Ellis Crosby & Associates.

Apparently Prelitigations of America is another. From my understanding though, Ted Crosby can no longer conduct/own a collection company. Rumor has it that he is running that company.

I'm still searching for more information about Prelitigations as well as United Federal Bank, who has hired unprofessional people.

Prelitigation called me again today. They are actually harassing me. Calling everyday, after I have asked them repeatedly not to call me. I have sent them a cease and desist letter, they should receive it tomorrow.

Did you sent it certified mail, with return receipt? If so, keep track of every single phone call after they receive the letter.

~Mary

I actually think it's a good idea to start sending out 2 letters. Sending one CMRRR, obviously, so we can at least get some proof that they received the letter. And sending another one normal mail, to the same address. A lot of companies I've been told foward all certified mail to another department for special handling. Sometimes the letters won't even get read.

I agree with that, Mikey. Another option is to also fax the letter. If they are a company who follows the laws, the calls will stop almost immediately.

~Mary

Mary

Although faxing does provide an instant result, and can also provide us with a fax transcript to prove if they've received it not, it does not let us know if the correct person is receiving it. With mailing letters, only the addressee can open it by federal law. Either way, both are good options.

This is true. I meant to say that I usually do both, I fax and send a letter CMRRR. It usually works :)

~Mary

These people have been harrasing me as well. Here are the other phone numbers they've been calling me from.305-433-8368 or 732-231-6372.I was on vacation for a week and harrased my co-workers and told them that they were lying when I was out of town. They left embarrasing messages to my manager that I was being investigated by United Federal Department. I could loose my job if this guy dont stop harrasing me at work.He goes by the name of Steve Waugh?? Note also that he has a distictive heavy accent like Indian, people from India?. If anyone happen to come across with these people, please let me know. Who can I go to and report them for harrasment. Should I worry myself if I dont send them the money? Help I need advice from someone familiar with my situation. Should I go to my local police dept. to report this?

from Oregon

Jen-

Take a deep breath...I too was contacted by the same people with the funny "indian" accents, one in particular named Matt Hardy. He said the investigators are going to come to my home and I should have a lawyer there. This was Sat. April 1,2006 at 12 noon. I was told if I didnot have $1500 by 2PM I was going to jail...I have the same numbers (above) in my cell phone, they also call from a 954 area code as well as 904. If anything comes up as Jacksonville,Fl on your phone, it's them. You take control of the call and tell them they will do no such thing...I was so nervous, ready to cry but I came to my senses. Once I took control of them, I have not heard from them since April5th and that's only because I needed some time to find such as great site such as this one and I now know how to deal with them.

I also had a call from them, but I was too dumb to realize that it was a scam. That was before I joined this group of wonderful people. Matt Hardy also has a toll-free number of 800-830-5927. Mighty funny, Matt could hardly speak a word of English. Another name was Jack Smith, another foreign accent. Of course they got my money and won't give it back to me. I had an urge to call them yesterday and harass them about a refund. I was just as rude to them as they were to me when they scammed me out of $445 dollars. But I have to admit, it felt pretty good to tell these jerks exactly how I felt and what I thought they could do.

I had someone named "Nina" with a strong indian accent called me and left a threatening voice mail. She said if I do not call her or have my attorney call her then she had two words to say to me "Good Luck". What the heck!! Who are these people?? How did they get my number? Are these the same people who had the pay advance loan scam? Because if they are..they took out over 1200 out of my account on a 400 loan. I lost my checking account and my reputation because of them. Help!! :shock:

I have reported this people to the Florida Attorney General. They claim that this was a collections attempt for Premier Processing, a PDL. Funny, Premier will not tell me which collections agency my PDL went to. Just a word of advice....Do not send these people any of your hard-earned money. They are very rude and very threatening. Ask them to send you a debt verification letter. Odds are that they will either hang up on you, or threaten you again. Trust me, they are a scam.

I dealt with these clowns this week. Rude rude...and would not verify why they wanted $580 on a $200 PDL...or give me an address or FAX so I could send a validation letter.

I IMMEDIATELY called Platinum B, the original lender and told them of their tactics. They were sorry and surprised...and brought my debt back in house to make payment arrangements!

Premier will not even speak to me about the account that I had with them. They will not even verify if the account went to these idiots.

First my co-worker answered the call as I was away from my desk. The gentelman "KOCH" was very rude to her and demanded to speak with me right now and he didn't want to have to come and make a scene. When I got the message and called him back, he started the conversation by being very rude and said if I don't send $699.99 within 24 hours he was going to send the law to my job to embarrass me and take me away. He would not tell me who he worked for and would not give me a full name after I asked him several times. I found out it was Prelitigations after he told me what to put on the money gram I was NOT going to send. He kept telling me that I committed fraud and I needed to self surrender or else somobdy was going to come pick me up. I finally found out it was from a loan I took out with Platinum B services back in January. I had no contact information for them what so ever and he would not give it to me. He told me I had an attitude and hung up on me. The next day I called platinum b after finding there info on this site and asked them what the heck was going on. They told me my account was sent to collections on May 3rd and to call Icollect (anybody ever heard of them?). I called Icollect and she said that they used Prelitigations to collect on there debts. I then told her about the phone calls and everything they said to me and how illegal it was. She kept telling me I had to set up payment arrangements with them. I told her I refuse to talk to them anymore because the are rude, liars and they won't share any information. When I called Prelitigations to ask for something in writing, they kept asking for my address so they can send somebody over to get me. They refused to cooperate and I keep talking to the same people and they are giving me fake names. I ended up placing a call to the Florida Attorney Generals office and they were very nice and extremely helpful. I also filed a complaint with the FTC, these people need to be stopped and shut down.

Hi yondela33

You did the right thing while dealing with the CA. It is very obvious that if the CA has been hired to collect the debt from you, they must have your complete information. You are not required to give your address information to them. This makes me suspicious about the collection activities.

Check your credit report and verify if Platinum B has sold off the account with a zero balance. If they still hold the account, you can work out payment arrangements with them. Though you might have to negotiate with a realistic payment plan.

I received another call from that same idoit. The number shows up restricted and this time he had a female ask for me (she said her name was L.T.) and when I said "this is her". He got on the phone and said "Hey how ya doing?" then hung up. These people are so insane, I would really like to know how they get satisfaction out of harrassing people like this. How can they sleep at night, they must not be human.

yondela33

This is a conduct violation of the company and it should be reported to the proper authorities. The complaints placed with the bureaus will help others in understanding about their business. And, the authorities are forced into actions when large complaints are piled against a specific company.

This same company also calls themselves Affidavit Processing, they called me today, but when you call them back, they do not answer. I was also threatened by these people, and they demanded that I pay them $590, immediatly, or they would have me arrested. They tried to get me to pay via paypal or with a debit card. I refused to give the information, and they proceeded to get very rude and began cussing me. I tried to look them up online, but have had no results. they also gave me a website, but it turns up with no results. Here's what they gave me: affidavitprocess.com If anyone knows anymore about this "company" please let me know. thanks.


Link made inactive as per forum rules-Mike

Texashottie69,

What number did they call you from?

the number that they called me from is 305-433-8368

Once again, i was contacted by this company(affidavit processing)today. I took the advice from many of you, and asked for them to verify the debt that they were attempting to collect, i was told that after i make a payment, then they would send me written verification. I then informed this "Bryan Adams" that I had contacted a lawyer, the FTC, and the BBB of Texas and Florida and no one has heard anything but complaints about them. I then proceeded to ask if he was in connection with prelitigations and he became silent for a long moment, and finally responded by saying that he was going to personally come to my house and get the money, then he began to call me a B**CH, and tell me that i would regret making him mad. So in response, i told him to get on his camel and come on out to Texas, and I'll wait for you out on the porch, maybe we can bar-b-que when you get here. Needless to say, he hung up on me. :lol:

I too was contacted by the same 732-231-6372 number a day after another collection agency had called me threatening me that if I did not pay off a loan I would be charged with a felony for bank fraud and theft by deception. The first company that called may or may not be legit, however it was odd that this was a debt that was over eight months old from a payday loan company and they have NEVER contacted me until now, not a letter, not a phone call, nothing. I sent a moneygram for $200 to the company that called the first day, they stated they were a prelitigation company and that they spoke to the company and would allow me a few days to pay off the debt if I paid $200 that day. I am certain that the 732 number was fradulent...still trying to find out something about the company I sent the money to. I will not send any further money until I can verify that the money is actually going towards paying this debt. I too spoke to a man with a very heavy Indian accent (the 732-231-6372 number). Another strange thing was that when I told him I had already paid $200 to the other collection agency he told me that I had gotten ripped off and that that agency was not legit, however when speaking to him longer he really sounded suspicious. I didn't even have the phone number of the loan company, so I told him I needed to speak to the loan company before any further payment would be made. I asked him for the phone number, and he gave me a number of 908-212-3726. When I called, it was like I was calling a residence, as the person just simply said "hello" when answering the phone instead of answering with the company's name. Anyway, I contacted the local FBI, but until they get enough complaints she said they really don't do anything. She did tell me to call the BBB and the credit bureau, as these people had my SS#, bank acct. info., etc. I am still trying to find out if the first agency that called was legit, but I can't even find the phone number to the loan company. If anyone knows of Arrowhead Investments and how to contact them, please let me know, as I need to know who they contract their collections out to. BEWARE before sending any money to anyone anymore unless you are sure they are legit, as I was told there are many people in India hacking into computers and that this is the latest scam, getting people to "pay off bad debts and threatening them if they dont" when in actuality they are stealing our money.

Arrowhead Investments
32 West 200 South, Suite 350
Salt Lake City, UT 84101
Phone: 1-866-355-7308
Fax:1-866-379-7667

I was contacted by this firm and spoke with someone named Jane. They threatened to have me arrested if I did not sen d $700 by moneygram in 3 hrs. They said I had committed internet fraud and conversion. They said i had taken out a payday loan over a year ago and never repaid it. I knew this was not the case, however, I knew I had taken out some before. They could not provide me with any information. I called the BBB and found out this was a scam. They ran their phone number and none of them showed up anywhere in their database. They tried contacting them as well and could not a mailing address for them either. Prelitigations made all kind of threats and I feel this is a group of people the public should be aware of. I am not done with them yet as soon as I can research and receive the appropriate information. This needs to stop!

A guy with a heavy Indian accent, "Shawn Watson," to be exact told me I would be facing legal problems. The number he left was 718-715-0846. So do I ignore them or what?

Don't ignore the case. Instead deal with them with your attorney. The CA will get the case if the judge feels your ignorance even though you don't have to deal with them. Complete all your paperwork and explain the situation in writing to the company. If the matter takes a legal shape, you will have your documentation to prove out the facts.

I have been recieving calls from these people who work for "Pre-litigation Services for Platinum B Services" trying to get me to pay a debt for money I never recieved. The last person who called me was Amee Landers phone number 1-866-900-7701 and she said she couldn't give me any information about my debt and that police would be sent to my place of work and residence. She also informed me that I could be "detained on sight". Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with these people?