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Panicked in the Midwest

Date: Thu, 08/17/2006 - 14:56

Submitted by eamuscatuli
on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 14:56

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Hi all... came across the site. Currently I'm freaking out, I have three PDLs, one from GFSIL for $200, one from Whistler Holdings/Xpress Cash for $300 and another from a company I haven't seen much about called ASAP Processing for $250.

I caved in a couple months ago and got the payday loans one after another when I felt like I had no choice (pretty cliche, huh?) following a surgery that I had. Since then, my checking account has gotten completely out of control and I'm going to have to close it and subject my negative balance to Chexsystems because I cannot come up with the negative balance right now.

GFSIL is the only PDL that is currently contacting me regarding my delinquent loan as the other two are only a couple weeks delinquent. I'm really freaking out about a lot of this. But if I could get the answers to some of my questions, maybe (and that's a BIG maybe) I will feel a little better (depending on the answers of course)!

1) I applied for these loans on one of those sites that "refers" me to a lender (which by the way, thanks to them I'm receiving 100 spams a day to my email) and the lenders, in turn, contact me.

On the original application, I'm pretty sure I listed my parents and a co-worker friend as personal references. Quite stupid when I look back, but how concerned should I be that if I don't pay them quickly they will start contacting them and telling them about my personal business?

2) Secondly, I'm concerned that they will start drawing payments out of my new checking account. Clearly that can't be legal, but from all the things I've read, I would hardly put this past any of them.

3) It's quite possible that in the next couple months, I should be able to pay part if not all of these loans off, but my third and final question is, is it possible to actually pay these people off? Or do they just keep asking for more and more money? I live in Wisconsin so no laws limit the amounts, but is there something I can request in writing that will show me exactly what I owe and prove that I pay it off completely?

Here in the next couple months, I should be able to get my finances straightened out and I might actually be ahead for the first time in my life if I play my cards right, but I really don't want these PDLs ruining my plans. I don't really want to use a Debt Counselor because I have a credit card that I'm currently using (responsibly, of course) to repair my credit and I don't want to close the account. Things are all looking up for me, but I can't be happy because I'm SO worried about these loans. Sorry for the novel, but any advice would be appreciated! Thanks!


Welcome to the forums :D Sounds like you came to the right place!Take a deep breath and relax!As far as your new checking account,how would they know that existed or the acct. number?Second,they may call whoever you put down as references to try to get info on you.They are not supposed to give out any personal info on you to anyone.Have you tried to talk with them about your situation to see if you can work something out,might be worth a try.As far as credit counseling,It wouldn't hurt just to talk to them,you aren't bound by anything just talking to them,and they may be your answer,not sure about your credit card you want to keep,I think,you can include what you want to. But someone can correst me,I may be wrong about that. Good Luck :D ...Karen


lrhall41

Submitted by Bossy4455 on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 15:23

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1) Since you have included your parent's and friends name as reference, GFSIL will miss no chance in disturbing them since you are not sending them money. Before this happens, try to resolve the matter directly with GFSIL. Fix a settlement amount if they want to be paid back. You will have to negotiate hard on this deal, but it might help you in getting rid of them. Have everything in writing so that they don't bug you for any reason later.

2) If you are not comfortable with your checking account information with them, monitor your statements closely. Make sure that the payments done by you are according to the terms set in the settlement deal when you had a direct talk. If you don't want them to use your checking account, tell them that you prefer sending money through money order or western union. But, you must review your bank statements regularly.

3) Most loan companies keep asking for more and more money until you are aware of your consumer rights. It's very easy for them to make money like this. As I said earlier, get the settlement deal in writing and later, the 'Paid in full' letter. The point is that you should have everything in writing to prove your facts, in case you have to dispute with them later. There are many discussions about this company. Hope these links help in understanding about their business.

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/settlement/about12557-1.html

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/settlement/about13773.html


lrhall41

Submitted by GunsNroses on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 15:49

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I spoke with someone from GFSIL a couple weeks ago regarding this and told them that I would feel more comfortable paying with a cashier's check and he told me that they only accept payment's electronically from a checking account. I can't agree to this with my old account because it's going to get closed, and I REALLY don't want to agree to this at the new one because I think that would kinda defeat the purpose. Any suggestions?


lrhall41

Submitted by eamuscatuli on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 16:58

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Send your payment anyway through certified check along with your proposal. Seeing the money in hand, if they check the cash, you will realize they have accepted your proposal. Even if they don't, you have proof to show your part of the responsibility and the reasons of keeping your checking account out of the picture. Try this.


lrhall41

Submitted by GunsNroses on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 17:08

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If they don't accept your proposal, the check should not be cashed..right?? keep a watch on the status of your check to make sure the latest activities. Give some time for them to decide whether they should go ahead and cash your check. If they don't, you may have to work up another plan and the check needs to be returned back to you.


lrhall41

Submitted by GunsNroses on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 17:39

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OK, let me rephrase, I'm not sure I wrote what I meant. Let's say, for isntance, I send a cashier's check for $279 (the original principal + the original interest) attached to a letter stating that I wish to settle this account for the original amount due, $279. Can't they simply take the money and just say no and ask for more? I'm just confused where exactly my rights are here.


lrhall41

Submitted by eamuscatuli on Thu, 08/17/2006 - 17:39

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I just found out last night that companies in Wisconsin that are not licensed with the Dept. of Financial Institutions cannot charge interest in excess of 18%. I'm pretty sure that GFSIL and ASAP Processing are not licensed, but I'm not sure about Whistler/Xpresscash. I think I might try faxing letters stating that basically I've already paid way too much and that I am owed a refund, to see where that gets me. What do you think?


lrhall41

Submitted by eamuscatuli on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 04:09

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It sounds like you have the right idea of what you should be doing to get out of these loans. Figure out how much you've paid and make sure you put that in your letters including the licensing information and maximum interest allowed. I don't know anything about the companies you are working with but I think that GNR gave you some great advice.


lrhall41

Submitted by CycloneFan on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 06:29

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if you want to make sure that they have received your cashiers and proposal you can send it through the post office either return receipt or certified, there are other options also but these let you know that it was delivered and if certified they must sign for delivery if you so choose. That way you know they got it and then you can track the cashier's check through the bank to see status of being cashed or non-cashed.


lrhall41

Submitted by Pauli'sGirl on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 13:05

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I cant log in here from work but you can trace money orders through the bank and you can also trace Cashier checks to know if they have been cashed, I did this once when I sent a bill that way and they didnt get the money I had the money order reissued and a stop payment on the original one
I am also with GFI and awaiting to see if they cash payments sent from T & C we shall see They argued with me on the phone about the usuary charges etc and they will tell you anything but the truth about what laws apply to them, The are telling me that I owe 500 on a 200 loan when I notified them twice by mail prior to the default So they are not fun to deal with but Stand Strong and stick to your guns you know wht you can afford to pay them better than they do

Good luck Let everyone know here if you need addresses just type it in the search box they are listed here for you


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 17:12

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Let me know how that turns out, also what address did you use? My first try will be a letter stating that I have actually more than paid the amount allowed by Wisconsin law and I want them to mark the loan paid in full. I found that letter that talks about notifying my attorney general, but does anyone ever do that? And if so, does anything ever happen, in particularly, to the specific case (for instance, does the Atty. General contact the PDL and the PDL backs off?) Man oh man, I so want this to get taken care of but why am I getting the feeling this will take months and months, if not forever. From all this I'm reading, I'm getting good ideas but I'm also getting discouraged. How do most of these PDL situations end? I can't file bankruptcy because I already have (last year!). Please someone, encourage me, tell me that sometimes they work out OK???


lrhall41

Submitted by eamuscatuli on Fri, 08/18/2006 - 18:13

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AAAHHHH!!! HELP!!!??!? I just called GFSIL to try and get my loan taken care of. I told them that I needed to send a Cashier's Check because my account is being closed. They offered to settle my $200 principal with four $50 payments over the next four paychecks. I promptly agreed and then they tried telling me I agreed to a $450 payment on the 1st of September. I told them that is not what I agreed to and that they should be lucky I am settling for $200 because since they are not licensed in my state they should actually owe ME money. So, the guy asked me if I could do one $200 payment on 9/1 via Cashier's Check to settle the account. I told them as long as I received an email stating that my account would be PAID IN FULL, I would send a Cashier's Check postmarked by 9/1 for $200. They asked me to fax a copy of the Cashier's Check to show that it is coming. I felt pretty decent to get these people off my back, but unfortunately, not five minutes later my phone rang with a "pre-approval for a $1500 cash advance" recording. I thought I had made progress but now I'm worried about what I may have done!?


lrhall41

Submitted by eamuscatuli on Mon, 08/21/2006 - 09:43

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So, I got home from work and I had received a confirmation email from GFSIL, here is what it says:

Quote:

"We can confirm that we will accept your offer as full and final settlement of your debt with GFS, subject to you paying the following amounts:-

Amount Date
$200 09/01/2006

In accepting this, we confirm we will write-off the remaining balance of your account with us, after the final payment has been received on the date specified in your mail.

If either the amount varies or you are late in paying us, our agreement to this settlement will be immediately withdrawn. In such circumstances you will be liable for the full balances outstanding on your loan, in line with the terms and conditions you agreed to when you took the loan. We hope this will not apply and that our gesture is taken in good faith and you keep to the offer you have made.


We are setting up payments to debit your Account by ACH for the amounts and dates you have specified.


Regards

Chris Wilson
Customer Service Team"


The sad part, however, is that the email states they will ACH debit my account but the settlement offer was to send a Cashier's Check. I've called three times to have a corrected email sent, each time the representative has told me that it says in the system that it will be paid by Cashier's Check and that the email must have been sent incorrectly in error. However, I have yet to receive a corrected email. I plan on hounding these people incessantly until I get a corrected one. I also plan on sending a letter with my payment 9/1 that states that deposit of the enclosed payment constitutes acceptance of settlement to pay in full. Does anyone else have any ideas? I can't write an email for them, but I just know that they are doing this to try and screw me!


lrhall41

Submitted by eamuscatuli on Mon, 08/21/2006 - 17:51

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