FDRS trying to recruit lawyers..lol

Very interesting! Are you in a position to spill the beans to anyone important?

Jeez, some people never learn.

I think some people try hard NOT to learn!

Please post any more dirt you have on them.

I am hearing that FDRS may be using BayView Law Group which is run by scammer Douglas Crowder. Douglas Crowder also runs Johnson Law Group as well as jackson, Crowder and associates.

Federal debt relief Systems appears to be acting as your standard dmp company that severely overcharges its customers planning on losing a very high percentage in a short time period due to lawsuits or missed payments or both.

I don`t know where you are getting this info from but I feel you are just spreading rumors you can`t substantiate. Can you actually prove that Bay View Law Group and Johnson Law Group are affiliated with FDRS. No you can`t because there is no relationship.

Don`t get me wrong, I hate FDRS because they are a scam but they are not acting as your standard dmp company .They advertise debt termination where they claim to make the debt disappear. Please do some research on the subject before posting claims of what you " think " they do.

There is a firm jackson Crowder & associates that uses non-attorneys to talk to people inquiring about debt counselng and mortgage modification.............UNEMPLOYED ATTORNEYS WILL WORK FOR THIS COMPANY!!!! THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU!!!!

DONT SEND YOUR MONEY TO WHAT YOU THINK IS A LAW FIRM IN ANOTHER STATE...........GO SEE A LOCAL ATTORNEY..........NOT ONE THAT WORKS WITH A FLORIDA OR CALIFORNIA BUSINESS THAT LETS NON-ATTORNEYS GIVE LEGAL ADVISE..............

IF THEY DO NOT GIVE YOU THEIR LAST NAMES............AND USE ONLY JOHN OR SUSAN OR DAVID..............THAT IS A CLUE!!!! AND YOU NEVER TALK TO AN ATTORNEY BEFORE GIVING MONEY!!! DON'T DO IT. CALL A LOCAL FIRM THAT WILL REPRESENT YOU LEGALLY AND ETHICALLY!!! MEET THE ATTY. :(

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don't kid yourself, where there is a scam, there is probably a lawyer in it, supporting it, or defending it. Jackson Crowder & Associate PA (organized in Florida) and now changing to Crowder Law GroupPA, (also a FL Association) are exampless......... their sales pitch for their "enrollment reps" refers to clients, and how can a sales person actually have a legal client??? refers to clients as "idiots and losers."

and there is no "enrollment" when a person gives a fee to a law firm.............enrollment is when you sign up for the book of the month club, a fee given to a law firm is a "retainer" and starts with fiduciary duty...........but, of course, how would a non-legal sales person know that???

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Bayview is engaging in baristry and interstate criminal fraud in its telemarketing practices. They are contracting illegal robo-calls to cel phones and DNC listed numbers by call centers reportedly in Ohio and San Diego (their base). Some (I've documented, maybe most or all) are 2nd tier filtered by "FH Financial" in Dallas (first name only staff, CID from 214-269-5400), that in turn passes on qualified marks to BayView Law Group.

Bayview's Facebook photos don't look like a law firm doing business in 47 states and DC, but rather a couple of managers with a small boilerroom of kids.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bay-View-Law-Group/92433281894?v=photos

Bayview hides its Web domain registration, not typical for a real law firm. They show being dropped by domain registrars and bounced from Web hosts dozens of times in the last few years, not a sign of a legal and ethical professional business. In 2009, they averaged less than 2 weeks without some abnormal change.

http://whois.domaintools.com/bayviewlaw.com

It might be wise for anyone who values his Bar license to stay far away from these crooks. Since they are using robo-calling to numbers in violation of Federal law, and are doing so in a manner that amounts to baristry, every referral to a local associate law firm from Bayview should be automatically suspect as part of a criminal conspiracy in which the referral recipient firm or counsel becomes complicit.

These crooks are arrogant, and even posture themselves as if ethics educators at industry conferences, eg this press release excerpt:

"Assistant Managing Attorney Jose Angel Trejo will be a featured guest speaker covering "Ethical Concerns for Attorneys Involved in Debt Settlement" during the 2009 U.S.O.B.A. Summer Conference...."

According to the above Facebook page, the firm's lead attorney is James L. Farley, who has been a member of the California Bar since 1978.

Bad news, as regardless of details on the actual debt relief work (presumably mostly by a range of regional associates, not themselves), it's unwise to eat poisoned fruit.

I hate to tell you though that debt issues are legal issues and every debt settlement firm will be out of business. Only an attorney licensed in your state should handle your debt issues. You have to be a fool to hire a "credit counselor" etc.