8665290217 - Does this number belongs to Langhorne Law?
Date: Wed, 11/08/2006 - 15:55
ok, aside from langhorne law showing up on my bank info, I've al
ok, aside from langhorne law showing up on my bank info, I've also had ambassador financial. I had to close out my citibank and get another acct because they kept debiting and debiting . I knew i had a pdl but was not sure which one ambassador belonged to. I called the bank and tried to get some kinda info on them like a telephone # or address, but the bank couldn't find anything. I should have came here. They must have taken out quadruple the amount i actually owed! about 180 each paychek! so to make a long story short i closed my acct and haven't heard from them. Now i owe the bank all those nsf fees.
so i'm guessing all these pdl's go by dba's? It's hard for plp
so i'm guessing all these pdl's go by dba's? It's hard for plp to track them down w/ addresses.
Langhorne Law/Nationwide Cash/Ambassador Financial Services are
Langhorne Law/Nationwide Cash/Ambassador Financial Services are the same animal.
oh my goodness, are you serious? ok if that's the case, how come
oh my goodness, are you serious? ok if that's the case, how come ambassador hasn't taken out any money from my pdl for themselves? If they are the same company? They still have my bank acct number since they've been debiting me for nationwide. I don't understand. Are they not allowed?
It's all designed to confuse the consumer! It's Nationwide C
It's all designed to confuse the consumer!
It's Nationwide Cash's loan.Your account is debited under "Ambassador Financial Services", Nationwides "parent" company.
Actually langenhorn law doesn't exist anymore, if you google tha
Actually langenhorn law doesn't exist anymore, if you google that you will get langhorne debt settlement, he switched his business and now his website has shown that change and a change in the company name. It is not longer Langhorne Law.
you all are not listening. i had the same problem with nationwi
you all are not listening. i had the same problem with nationwide. here is what i have found out after doing some real digging and talking with some folks in this forum. read very carefully so we don't have any miscommunication.
dennis williams owns langhorne law. dennis williams was in charge of collections for nationwide. dennis williams has his name on the bank side because the other partners, the owners of nationwide, can't get a bank account. dennis williams is parading around like he doesn't have anything to do with nationwide but they all share the same address, phone system and email systems. from what i can see, all we are doing is paying dennis williams to settle debt but that we won't save much at all because we are paying him instead of paying off our debt and if we miss our payments then the pdl company will turn the heat up on the collection machine. guess what happens then, we have paid dennis williams and now we are in a real problem because we still owe 100% to the pdl and dennis williams has our money and just says thanks for the cash but you didn't follow the plan. if you ever thought of being able to use consolidation you won't after this. it just makes me sick that everyone is our situation is so blinded by some glimmer of hope and a quick fix that they fall into this trap. i have talked at length with them over there and believe me, if you don't follow the plan then you will have more than what you wanted.
This is going to prove to be very interesting as it all plays ou
This is going to prove to be very interesting as it all plays out. I just pray that nobody gets hurt even further.
I am neither pro nor con on this issue. Call me Switzerland, I'
I am neither pro nor con on this issue. Call me Switzerland, I'm neutral. But I do have to say this...
Considering that Langhorne was once involved in the payday mess, which they even admit on the website:
Quote:
All of the professionals at Langhorne debt solutions began in the payday loan industry. But we????????ve seen the industry take an ugly turn. Lenders are routinely skirting laws and abusing their borrowers in their quest for profit. So we said ???????enough.??????? We quit. And we????????ve now turned the tables on the industry itself. And no one is better qualified to do so. |
One would have to consider the following:
1) we know that connections did, and may still, exist between Langhorne and the paydays... to what extent, we will never know.
2) The online paydays know that people hate them. They know that people are getting smarter about the laws, and are fighting back by filing complaints and writing letters. Their harsh tactics are beginning to fail, and when all the customer start fighting back, they won't be able to make money.
3) We know that businesses try new things to make money... If the paydays play "bad guy" to the end, they might lose. Conversely, if they play "good guy" throught the guise of a debt manager, they will gain your trust and get you to repay the debt without filing all sorts of complaints.
That is just my take. But who knows if you sign up for the program, he may tell you "let me work on getting payment plans set up." Then he may just dial the collection department (ie "bad guys") and say "Hey, I got them to sign up... back off on the collection for a while." And so the collections stop, customer is happy and thinks Langhorne is doing its job, payday gets paid back, and charges you a fee for the payment plan on top of it.
Who knows, maybe they have an agreement worked out where he keeps a percentage of what he can collect. To the payday stores, getting paid a percentage is better than dealing with all the AG complaints and not collecting anything.
Again, just me, but sounds a little like the wolf dressed up in a sheeps costume and they are playing a game of good cop/bad cop in order to get paid back.
After doing a little digging, I also have these questions: I
After doing a little digging, I also have these questions:
I thought I would look up the DNS entry for the site langhornelaw.com, to see who it is registered to. All the information is "private" so it just gives you a address & phone to Network Solutions, who registers the website. Same thing for the langhornedebtsolutions.com, except they use GoDaddy.com instead of Network Solutions, to register the domain.
Both sites us the same domain server, which goes to JDLServicesCorp.com. That means when you type langhornelaw.com, your web-browser actually goes to JDLservicescorp.com to find out were langhornelaw.com is at. (Except if you try to visit a website at JDLservicescorp.com, you have unauthorized access.)
JDL also has a private entry, but it's administrative contact shows Worldwide XS, Ltd. (see below). It's record was updated 1 day after Langhorne's record was updated.
NOW go lookup nationwidecash.com on the WhoIs. Who is their main DNS server?? JDLSERVICESCORP.COM, who also routes the internet traffic for langhornedebtsolutions.com.
Now, from here there is another point of interest:
1) If you lookup nationwidecash, they actually have their info listed and not marked as "private". It is as follows:
[quote] Registrant: Make this info private
Worldwide XS, Ltd
P.O. Box 556
Charlestown, Nevis, West Indies 19703
KN
Domain Name: NATIONWIDECASH.COM
Administrative Contact :
Nationwidecash, Webmaster
webmaster(at)nationwidecash.com
884 Town Center Drive
Langhorne, PA 19047
US
Phone: 267-569-7000
Technical Contact :
Worldwide XS, Ltd
dgf1976(at)aol.com
P.O. Box 556
Charlestown, Nevis, West Indies 19703
KN
Phone: 869-469-0224
Fax: 869-469-8060
Record expires on 01-Nov-2008
Record created on 01-Nov-2001
Database last updated on 21-Jun-2006
Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS
NS.JDLSERVICESCORP.COM 63.138.68.5
NS2.JDLSERVICESCORP.COM 63.138.68.6
[/quote]
Look at the adress provided up under administrative contact above, and then tell me what is langhorne's contact address and phone??
So if Langhorne severed ties with these places, then why is he in the same building, his phone # is only 5 digits off from theirs, and why are they still directing his internet traffic?
I am biginning to find myself not neutral anymore, as it seems he is still in bed with them. I believe now, that instead of making money by charging you interest, they are making money on "administrative fees" to setup a repayment plan through Langhorne. Keep in mind, these "administractive fees" are probably not regulated to the extent that payday loans are. Seems like they are taking illegal & unauthorized payday loan charges, and converting them into "debt consolidation fees" to get behind the state's radar.
Wolf in sheeps clothing is hitting the nail right on the head. T
Wolf in sheeps clothing is hitting the nail right on the head. Trust and believe.
Also isn't JDL,also short for John,David & Larry?? D'Angelo
Also isn't JDL,also short for John,David & Larry??
D'Angelo & Frascella? Dennis Williams,President.
Yes it is! And I would like to know if they can explain who the
Yes it is! And I would like to know if they can explain who the "Fresh Prince of Trenton" is, some know, but it would just be intersting if they can admit that this is their Director of Marketing
Interesting fact: Langhorne's number is now disconnected. (86652
Interesting fact: Langhorne's number is now disconnected. (8665290217)
Guest. Let me see if I am understanding this correctly. You ar
Guest. Let me see if I am understanding this correctly. You are accusing Dennis Williams of over 200 counts (Last I heard Dennis had over 200 clients)of felony fraud and risking not only disbarrment, but what to would amount to life in prison if convicted of over 200 counts of entering into a bogus client attorney advocate relationship by accepting retainers, powers of attorneys and signing contracts of representation with those clients. While all the time what he really is, is a collection agent for the PDL's. And you have made these accusations in writing in a public forum (However behind the anonimity of "Guest")
If he really is just a PDL collection agent than why has he turned so my people away because he felt that his fee vs. the amount of money he could save them was not cost effective for the client? Wouldn't he just take their money anyway?
Why has he been able to settle so many people's loans at a zero balance? If he is out to collect more money for the pdl's, he sure is doing a terrible job for them.
If you stand by your accusations than I suggest you come out of hiding behind your "Guest" status. Better yet, if you have actual proof that Dennis is perpetrating a fraud against his clients, than as any decent American citizen you should turn over that proof to the Pennsylvania Attorney General and the Pennsylvania bar association and put a stop to him, instead of making anonymous accusations. That's would I, and the majority of decent people on the forum would do if we could actually prove such a vast fraud existed. I know there are a lot of people here that have all 50 states AG's office on speed dial!
I will look into this further with several friends of mine with the Pennsylvania bar and make a call to the PA AG, and get back to everybody with what I find.
No, I won't come out of hiding. It is for my own good. And trust
No, I won't come out of hiding. It is for my own good. And trust me, facts are going to come out such as
Fact #2: The address, try getting an aerial view of it, which can be done by accessing mapquest.
The first fact posted: His number is disconnected, try calling it.
And I'm not the Guest you are referring to. I'm not the one who
And I'm not the Guest you are referring to. I'm not the one who posted as Guest in earlier posts either. I am just a person who knows.
Check out the aerial view of the location of the address and keep clicking in until you get a real good view.
Call his number, DISCONNECTED
Fact remains, he is still in business with his buddies and that can be proven. I think Roadwarrior and DebtCruncher have proven that, but there is more proof.
Everyone, I just called the toll-free Langhorne number 866529021
Everyone,
I just called the toll-free Langhorne number 8665290217 and got right through to VM. So I don't know what happened but this number is up and running.
cbigfan7..... Don't get your undies in a bunch. No one is m
cbigfan7.....
Don't get your undies in a bunch. No one is making any accusations. Just addressing discrepancies that Williams himself has refuted.
Roadwarrior, How has he refuted them? I really want to know, th
Roadwarrior,
How has he refuted them? I really want to know, thanks!
I have heard from Dennis. His phone lines were down temporarily
I have heard from Dennis. His phone lines were down temporarily due to repairs. I won't go into the rest of it except I PM'd you kscornell.
omg what have i started? I'm sorry Dennis. I'm confused now.
omg what have i started? I'm sorry Dennis. I'm confused now. I still think langhorne helps plp.
of course you do. read the freakin posts here. Dennis, i am so
of course you do. read the freakin posts here. Dennis, i am so sorry you are still taking money from people, really just disguised as debt consolidation.
Isn't it odd......Dennis has yet to respond to any of this. He u
Isn't it odd......Dennis has yet to respond to any of this. He usually would have by now........odd, I wonder why he is suddenly silent on this? He's always been quick to respond in the past...Hmmmmmm........
I spoke to him yesterday for about 30 minutes on the phone, and
I spoke to him yesterday for about 30 minutes on the phone, and I know he was in court yesterday. His phones were down over the weekend as he was having equipment replaced that was damaged due to flooding a week ago Monday. Everything is working now. Also, I spoke to the assistant DA in Bucks County and there are no pending complaints against Dennis or his firm. Oh and on a really happy note, I got another "Paid in full" settlement letter from Starlight financial yesterday. Yea!
Congratulations, cbigfan7 - that's great news!! How many does t
Congratulations, cbigfan7 - that's great news!! How many does that make now?
Once again, Dennis why haven't you responded to any of these que
Once again, Dennis why haven't you responded to any of these questions? Usually you are on top of responding. And second hand information isn't exactly explaining what the real questions are. It sounds so much better coming from the horses mouth. Complaints cold be coming from other places other than Bucks County. People are being blind sided here because they want somebody to rescue them. And avoiding the facts that are at hand.
That makes 7 dbaker6 that have been settled "Paid in full" witho
That makes 7 dbaker6 that have been settled "Paid in full" without having had to pay another dime.
And what is JDL Services Corporation all about anyways? And what
And what is JDL Services Corporation all about anyways? And what does JDL stand for exactly?
Wow - 7! That's fantastic, cbigfan. How long did it take, if yo
Wow - 7! That's fantastic, cbigfan. How long did it take, if you don't mind my asking?
Langhorne has had my account for 3 weeks now. 1 of the settleme
Langhorne has had my account for 3 weeks now. 1 of the settlements I got on my own, but the other 6 his office negotiated. 4 others he negotiated a "principal only" payback over 4 months (these were recent ones I had taken out and had not yet made any payments on). Still a long way to go, but I have come so far from that place of despair 3 weeks ago. Thanks for your support!
You're more than welcome! It's so great to see another success
You're more than welcome! It's so great to see another success story, especially in so short a time. As far as the payback, that time will be gone before you know it, and you'll be debt free! (definitely a huge accomplishment!) Again, congratulations, and keep up the good work.
some have done by their self in less than one week for free.
some have done by their self in less than one week for free.
This just in! I am receiving a $1,184.00 refund from Starlight
This just in! I am receiving a $1,184.00 refund from Starlight Financial!
Quote:
Subj: Star Light Financial Date: 11/21/2006 10:21:24 AM Central Standard Time From: info(at)starlightfs.com To: Sent from the Internet (Details) Dear Laura, We are sorry that you are dissatisfied with our service. We will be mailing you a check shortly in the amount of $1184.00 which is the total amount of fees we collected from you for your loan less balance of the principal owed us. Star Light Financial, LLC |
That more than covers Langhorne's fee!!! Guess they just paid for themselves
Again, cbigfan, a big congratulations to you for a big check!
Again, cbigfan, a big congratulations to you for a big check!
langhornelaw
I can't get through to langhorne law. Has anyone spoken to them today. I am a client (I've made 2 payments to them) I hope I haven't been scammed. Reading all of the above posts........... I'm freaking out!!!!!!!!
I spoke to them twice this morning. Once I called them, and onc
I spoke to them twice this morning. Once I called them, and once they called me. I was notified of yet another settled account and a refund. What number are you calling?
I am dialing 866-529-0217. I've been with them for 3 weeks and
I am dialing 866-529-0217. I've been with them for 3 weeks and I've not been notified of settlements, refunds, or anything. How long have you been with them? They've been so nice and professional. I really have gotten my hopes up. I'll be devestated if I've been scammed again. Please make me feel better...........
I just called the number and it is working just fine. I have be
I just called the number and it is working just fine. I have been with them for 3 weeks. You said you have been with them 3 weeks? And made 2 payments to them? Hmm. Curious. They only take payments once a month. Which counselor did you have your orientation with? I have all their direct contact numbers. Perhaps I can help you get in touch
I have one small issue - it all seems too good. And here's my re
I have one small issue - it all seems too good. And here's my reasoning:
Star Light Financial. If anything, that website is horrible (starlightfs.com). You want me to enter my name and social security number on a webpage with no encryption? And that URL - a WHOIS brings it up and another hidden proxy.
Something isn't right. I can't put my finger on it, but something just does not feel right with me. Maybe someone can convince me otherwise.
Jedijeff. Starlight is a PDL Lender. We were discussing being
Jedijeff. Starlight is a PDL Lender. We were discussing being able to reach Langhorne which is a lawfirm that is settling PDL loans for consumers. What was your question??
I don't have a question, per se. Just that reading all the posts
I don't have a question, per se. Just that reading all the posts, seeing both sides based on what people are saying, something doesn't add up.
And I guess Starlight is a lender. Have you logged into their website? If so, I would definately watch your credit report for identity theft. I also find it amazing that I can't even CONTACT them without having an account, yet there is nowhere on that site I can apply for one. And no phone number listed. How is the world do they expect to do business when you can't contact them unless you login, but you can't login unless they have created an account? And when you sneak thru their fine html coding to get to a contact box, again, you need to enter a SS# on an unsecured webpage.
jedi is right, if it seems too good to be true then it is. there
jedi is right, if it seems too good to be true then it is. there is alot more going on here and people just have blinders on. and he is right in the end people will see why this doesn't add up.
and as to the other guest who has been with them 3 weeks, be car
and as to the other guest who has been with them 3 weeks, be careful. go with your gut instincts they are usually right and in this case they are.
cbigfan7, you don't have all of their direct numbers, cause if y
cbigfan7, you don't have all of their direct numbers, cause if you did your eyes would open wide. you do not have all of their direct numbers.
I have been with them a little over 3 weeks. Since October 24th
I have been with them a little over 3 weeks. Since October 24th to be exact. Yes, I have made 2 payments. One on the 24th of Oct. and one on the 16th of Nov. I was able to contact them finally and my confidence has been restored.
Good, I am glad you got through. Good luck and keep us posted o
Good, I am glad you got through. Good luck and keep us posted on how things are going. I hope you have as positive an outcome as I have. Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Keep your fingers crossed fo
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Keep your fingers crossed for me. So far, no settlements that I know of. We'll see..............