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Submitted by on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 09:47
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Can anyone get me some advice about Oak View Law Group? I know they are credited with BBB, but everytime I call I get a foreign sounding man that I cannot understand answering the phone. I need to sign up for some kind of debt relief and thought this company may be able to help me out. I am so leery of signing through the internet and giving out personal information. I live in Ky and cannot find a local debt settlement office anywhere.


Oak View Law Group does have a "satisfactory" rating with the BBB.

To get consumer feedback about this company you can search around our forum. In fact OVLG has good response in our forum.

Some of the consumer responses can be found out here: -

Has anyone used Oak View Law

Referred to Oak View Law Group

How is Oak View law Group work under or with or what ever

Oak View Law gives me time


Submitted by phoenix on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 23:41

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I'm not interested in offending anyone, but I'm confused.

Searching around, I see that Vikas owns Oak View Law Group.

[samebox:3fbce8b20f="OVLG"]"Oak View Law Group" or OVLG, is not owned by Vikas. The shareholders and licensed attorneys of OVLG are V. KALANI, ESQ. - Founding Attorney,
Christopher Donald Hewitt, ESQ. (Attorney) and Brian Morris, ESQ. (Attorney). To know more about these attorneys, please go through our site????????s link: - https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html[/samebox:3fbce8b20f]

I find that he's not licensed with the California state bar. And a lawyer named Kalani is founder of OVLG, but he's not licensed either.
[samebox:3fbce8b20f="OVLG"]A CA law corporation can have foreign attorneys as share holders. Please read http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_generic.jsp?cid=10164&id=1316. The shareholders of OVLG are listed at:
https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/
[/samebox:3fbce8b20f]

But a lawyer that _is_ licensed in CA, Chris Hewitt, lives not in Palo Alto or even California, but out in AZ.
[samebox:3fbce8b20f="OVLG"]OVLG uses a completely web based case management system. Please see: https://www.oakviewlaw.com/screenshots/ Chris works from Arizona but he has access to all the electronic files. [/samebox:3fbce8b20f]
(He's really pretty new to the law but his firm is so highly recommended, he must be one of the best debt lawyers ever.)

(BTW, if someone can show me how to legally post a link, I'll provide several.)
[samebox:3fbce8b20f="Vikas"]The TOS allows links to be put as inactive links. Please see: http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/tos.html [/samebox:3fbce8b20f]

Then I see that this website, which recommends OVLG and puts in the wonderful ranking chart, is also owned by Vikas.

(There are links galore.)

So I do some more googling, and it turns out that Vikas has been hiring forum writers, managers, moderators and so on for years. Content writers too. Lots of them, meaning that many posts here must be professionally produced, right?

[samebox:3fbce8b20f="Vikas"]All employees of InterNext Technologies Inc. when they post in the forums they are identified as employees of InterNext Technologies Inc. We have given you the freedom to post what you want, please do not abuse it to make insinuations.[/samebox:3fbce8b20f]


(Many, many links. How to post them?)

Can anyone please explain all this. I'm so confused and all I really want is just help with all my debt. I know I can trust this wonderful community filled with care.

Thanks so much!

* Changes made as per TOS.


Submitted by on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 23:31

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Can this be true?

If the same person owns this site, creates the posts, and is on both sides of a referral that might not be ethical.

OVLG is a real law firm, it's on the coveted ranking chart.

Can a moderator shed some light on this?


[samebox:e064dfb2dd="OVLG"]If you have any confusion on OVLG and it's genuineness then please visit our site at https://www.oakviewlaw.com/

You can also go through our list of attorneys https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html to get a proof of our genuineness

To locate the geographical position of our offices, please go through our contact-us list
https://www.oakviewlaw.com/contact-us/index.html.[/samebox:e064dfb2dd]


Submitted by on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 10:09

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This must be a real concern for all of us in this forum. If they are not legally licensed how can we trust them to help us.

[samebox:5a3f6e4405="OVLG"] Please see www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html for the links to the bar association websites and our licensing. [/samebox:5a3f6e4405]

Somebody must say something about this post above. Is this forum getting paid by a law firm to say all this good things about them?

[samebox:5a3f6e4405="Vikas"] This is a uncensored forum. Whenever a post is made by InterNext employee it is clearly marked. [/samebox:5a3f6e4405]

Moderators You must speak out ?


Submitted by I.ALVARADO on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 10:57

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Seems that today, August 16, 2008 is Raksha Bandhan, the festival celebrating love and affection between brothers and sisters. (Yesterday was Independence Day.)

Be nice to see a substantive response to the concerns above, but probably most of this thread will be gone by tomorrow. In a few hours a new day will dawn in Calcutta, and poof! My worst fears about this place confirmed.

Anyway, Happy Holiday, brothers and sisters!


Submitted by on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 14:59

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I am starting to wonder if anything you read on the internet is true anymore. I know I would certainly tend to acknowledge negative comments about a company versus positvie feedback. Think about it, where are the positive comments really coming from? I don't know if they are from someone in India that is posting for $10 bucks a post or a real person in Podunk Junciton, Kansas. It's time we all start questioning positive feedback about companies and maybe start paying more attention to places like RipOff Reports. This whole industry is crooked in my book. If you want to do something right, do it yourself (maybe with the help of a good attorney).
This industry feeds on a lot of vulnerable and desperate people looking for a way out of the messes that they got themselves into (for the most part).
Think before you act.
As for the posts above that bring into question, the ethics of some of these sites, I certainly agree that someone should investigate the allegations and find out what is going on.


Submitted by on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 20:31

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I wish I knew how to research some of this. Who owns what, who owns who, who gets paid kickbacks, who gets paid to post positive feedback? It would be interesting to know how a lot of these sites actually work and survive? The other poster was certainly correct in implying that you have to take each post with a grain of salt because you really don't have any idea where it is coming from or where they got there law degree? I'm not a lawyer either but I'm smart enough to know that there is a lot going on in some of these forums that are way over my head and rather than trying to figure it out, I will just continue to research the net and be careful how I interpret fact from fiction.


Submitted by on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 20:49

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Believe me folks, the investigative bus has left the station, and is on its way to court far away from Calcutta. It's yet a long road ahead, but nothing can stop this now. It doesn't even matter how long it takes: Internet data is ubiquitous and it never goes away.

Besides, I've made copies. :-)

Best wishes to all, including my Indian friends. Please remember this isn't personal, and that it's never too late to come forward with the truth.


Submitted by on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 21:10

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Jin, what is your agenda here? It doesn't matter to me who owns the site, as a member here I feel that this forum does a lot of good. The members here post information that can easily be backed by state or federal legislature which the general public may not know about. Also why does it matter if a person hails from the US, India, U.K., or where ever, or for that matter what their religion or celebrated holidays are?


Submitted by JCEMT on Sun, 08/17/2008 - 08:39

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JCEMT,

Thanks for the thoughtful questions. My agenda is to alert people to an elaborate fraud that enriches an unethical man at the expense of innocent debtors seeking help.

Of course it doesn't matter where someone is from. What matters is whether they are what they pretend to be.

Please think about it.


Submitted by on Sun, 08/17/2008 - 08:48

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Polly,

I've just read your link and I am sure that on some level you are earnest in your intentions. However, there are a number of major problems here.

1. Vikas as a non-lawyer can neither own a law firm nor control or share fees with a member of the bar. Nor can he do any of these things using someone else's state bar license. The entire idea is anathema to the licensing requirement. Vikas knows this.
[samebox:6eac8d2c29="OVLG"]"Oak View Law Group" or OVLG, as it is commonly known, is not owned by Vikas. For our list of shareholders please see:
https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html[/samebox:6eac8d2c29]

2. There appear to be no licensed lawyers in any of OVLG's California office, and only one anywhere (Chris in AZ). No "V. Kalani" appears anyplace on the 'net but OVLG. Instead, OVLG is heavily staffed by non-lawyers selling "debt services" of some kind. OVLG is a ???????law group??????? in name only.

[samebox:6eac8d2c29="OVLG"]JinSanJose it is slander when you say OVLG is a law group in name only. We have been trying to get your real identity but have been frustrated in our attempts due to the TOS of this website. As far as OVLG is concerned please read http://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/ It clearly mentions that Kalani is a Indian lawyer and also gives links to the bar registrations of the other American attorneys[/samebox:6eac8d2c29]

3. The referrals from here to OVLG between Vikas (as owner of OVLG) and Vikas (as owner of this site),

[samebox:6eac8d2c29="Vikas"]JinSanJose please do not make allegations like Vikas owns OVLG, without anything to back it up. Since it is a lie.[/samebox:6eac8d2c29]

without disclosing the self-dealing relationship, violate a number of important laws and Rules of Professional Conduct. For one thing, because of the long history of abuses such as this, lawyer referral services are heavily regulated. For another it constitutes a profound conflict of interest. Furthermore it violates rules governing lawyer advertising. It????????s plain unethical and illegal, and it misleads people just when they????????re vulnerable and seeking your help.

I see that you want to be a lawyer, and I applaud that. But Polly, you can't give the kind of legal advice being offered here before getting the proper training and license (including a year of schooling in the ethical rules). You can't send referrals to yourself and secretly split fees. You owe your client your loyalty, first, foremost and always. You can????????t be loyal to Vikas too.

I could go on and on, but for now I????????ll observe that you'll have difficulty getting a license to practice law with the track record shown here, including the facts disclosed in your last link. I am truly sorry to see all this.

Why don????????t you start thinking about what lies ahead? Perhaps there is a way out.

* Changes made as per TOS.


Submitted by on Sun, 08/17/2008 - 13:37

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Quote:

1. Vikas as a non-lawyer can neither own a law firm nor control or share fees with a member of the bar. Nor can he do any of these things using someone else's state bar license. The entire idea is anathema to the licensing requirement. Vikas knows this.


Vikas does not own, nor control anything at OVLG.

Quote:
2. There appear to be no licensed lawyers in any of OVLG's California office, and only one anywhere (Chris in AZ). No "V. Kalani" appears anyplace on the 'net but OVLG. Instead, OVLG is heavily staffed by non-lawyers selling "debt services" of some kind. OVLG is a ???????law group??????? in name only.


OVLG is an international law firm. Mr. Kalani is a licensed attorney in India and there is a California attorney who is also part of OVLG. The goal of OVLG at it's conceptions was to be able to practice law anywhere and everywhere, so the addition of the Arizona attorney does not surprise me. I believe that there will be other attorney brought on in a 'of counsel' relationship over time.

I haven't been involved directly with OVLG, so I do not know all of the specifics of it, but I can assure you that your concerns are unwarranted and are primarily due to a lack of understanding of the way OVLG is structured. Bottom line is that they are doing good work over there, from what I have read. It seems that their clients are happy with the results and that is a beautiful thing. Their fees are far lower than their competitors which is an added bonus for their clients.

From what I can see their is nothing "unethical" or "illegal" going on.

And I haven't been giving any legal advice to anyone in any capacity, but thanks for your concern. I've spent the last 2 weeks working on a storm water drainage system for a military base and you can rest assured, I am well within my rights and completely trained to perform such work.


Submitted by polly on Sun, 08/17/2008 - 13:55

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Am I missing something here? I believe Polly said that the owner of this forum doesn't own Oak View Law Group, he just works there as a paralegal but has a law degree from another country and according to one of her links, her friend started the company that used to work for this site or still does? Nope, I can't see any conflict of interest in this scenerio......don't even know if I can spell scenerio. Got spell check here? Might need a calculator maybe so I can see if 2 + 2 equals 4. BEEEEP, sorry, it does too represent a conflict of interest and I'm not even a lawyer. Maybe someone should tell everyone what is going on?


Submitted by on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 18:53

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Something is very fishy with this forum, and someday it will all be revealed. For now people anyone out there, if you need fianancial advise seek a financial advisor, if you need advise with law seek a lawyer, why do you think most of the people that visit this forum are here for? they are dazed and confused, never follow advise of someone who has made the same mistakes you have made, get me?

if you want financial or legal advise you are not going to get it here!


Submitted by on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 19:14

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Hey Nascar.........you learn how to drive.... some of the rest of us will teach you how to read. I asked what I was missing and pointed out some facts based on polly's post. You want to tell me what facts I was missing? I'm here to learn!
Would it be that polly's friend, Dennis that used to be at this site (maybe still is in some capacity) started OVLG after polly and him had worked for quite some time in trying to get another debt settlement company going back in 2005 or would it be the part where she told that Mr. Kalani from this site is apparently not an attorney or an attorney for OVLG but a paralegal (for them).
I think the previous post was questioning if OVLG really even had any lawyers that work on client cases since none can be found at their offices and I understand that polly was not able to completely answer the question but I am sure the California Bar association could clear this up rather easily.

Forgot to ask if you did the artwork for James Lombardo?


[samebox:faba0e214f="OVLG"]Oak View Law Group (OVLG) is a completely different entity from this site and Vikas is not the owner of OVLG. To know more on OVLG, please visit our website https://www.oakviewlaw.com.[/samebox:faba0e214f]


Submitted by on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 21:06

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Dennis? There is not a Dennis, who owns any portion of OVLG, nor DebtCC.

Mr. Kalani is not from this site. Mr. Kalani is an attorney and is the lead attorney at OVLG. OVLG is a international law firm which has licensed attorneys in many states and different countries.

Mr. Vikas is not an attorney, has never claimed to be one and is not an owner of Oak View Law. He is a para legal. OVLG also employs other individuals as customer service and so forth.

2005? I joined this board in 2006...look over there>>>

I am not employed at OVLG. I did not start OVLG, nor any other company for that matter. I work in Civil Engineering full time as an hourly employee. I'm pretty geeked about the over time that will be on my next pay check right in time for school shopping. Last year I made some videos for DebtCC and I plan to make some more in the future.

Who is James Lombardo???

I can't tell if you truly do not possess the capability to comprehend what you read, or if you just get your kicks from manipulating facts in an attempt to confuse others, but your game is tired and is getting really old.

Our members are intelligent human beings and understand what I have typed in answer to your questions, so if you think you can confuse them, think again!


Submitted by polly on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 21:37

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If you define working here as getting paid, then I don't work here anymore than any other member. All members here get points for posting which translate into dollars. I think I have cashed in my points twice over the last 2 and a 1/2 years. I'd have to check and see how many points I have to cash in now. Maybe I should do that :D If you joined you could earn some extra loot too.

I'm chilling on my sofa at home right now. Time to go to bed though, so I can get up and go to work in the morning.

P.S. I don't own a company with Vikas either. :D


Submitted by polly on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 22:41

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Polly,

OVLG is of course just one part of this puzzle, but it's as worth of scrutiny as anything.

Let's forget for a moment all of the other discrepancies about this "law group" consisting of one licensed attorney practically right out of law school. Instead we'll start at the beginning:

debtconsolidationcare.com/pub/about16987.html

debtconsolidationcare.com/settlement/about47860.html

Are we to believe that Vikas abandoned his dream to follow in his father's and grandfather's footsteps?

Fine. For the time being, we'll accept that at face value too.

Who then owns and controls OVLG? Both under California law and by long tradition, it must be a licensed attorney. It cannot be Chris Hewitt, because he was only recently hired, and certainly post-dates the Dharma failure. You have already asserted it is not Vikas.

[samebox:0c7bab1f81="OVLG"]
Please go through the shareholder list of OVLG in https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html[/samebox:0c7bab1f81]

So if it is not Vikas and it is not Hewitt, it must be somebody else. Kindly tell us who.


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 07:14

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Ok this is all great and I appreciate people trying to get to the truth of things, but I need help I am seriously considering debt settlement and I can not seem to find a good company to do this with. Everytime I narrow is down to a company I find some sort of complaint. Does any know of a GOOD company to work with PLEASE!?!?!?!??!????


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 07:43

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Let's stay focused. Here's the question, the OP that kicked off this thread:

"Can anyone get me some advice about Oak View Law Group?"

Here's some advice when hiring any attorney: the very first thing to check is your prospective attorney's license to practice. That's because non-lawyers can't represent or advise you. It's important too because a license check will disclose any discipline or the like.

The only person on OVLG's own website with a California state bar license is Chris Hewitt, and we've already learned that he's not the responsible attorney. In addition to being newly hired by OVLG's undisclosed boss,[samebox:b03bcc1d26="OVLG"]There is nothing undisclosed about OVLG. Please go through the shareholder list of OVLG https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html[/samebox:b03bcc1d26] the address shown on his state bar page--in effect, his official address of record--is an office in Arizona. OVLG, on the other hand, doesn't even have an office there. Still more incongruously, Hewitt's listed phone number answers, "law office of Christopher Hewitt." [samebox:b03bcc1d26="OVLG"]You're calling his personal number. Please call OVLG's numbers given in the contact us page https://www.oakviewlaw.com/contact-us/index.html[/samebox:b03bcc1d26]

(Like the other anomalies I've already mentioned, let's ignore too that the "head office" doesn't want any mail, a bizarre request I've never seen in 22 years in the law business.)

[samebox:b03bcc1d26="OVLG"]We have an FAQ "Why mail received at head office takes a extra week for processing ?" please read that. https://www.oakviewlaw.com/faqs/index.html[/samebox:b03bcc1d26]

So again, when you retain the California-headed, international law firm OVLG to represent you, who is your attorney?

[samebox:b03bcc1d26="OVLG"]Please go through the shareholder list of OVLG https://www.oakviewlaw.com/attorneys/index.html[/samebox:b03bcc1d26]

It's a simple and highly pertinent question. With long-time members here rightly suggesting a complaint with the state bar and AG, someone best answer.


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 09:42

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one question nosequitor,which illegal scam do work for?all you have done is take a topic and try to muddy the waters.i answered a persons question,if you have nothing to contribute but conjecture GO AWAY!!!!i for one have had enough of you.


Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 10:09

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I'm just looking for a good company to represent me and all of my problems. I'm not really looking for positive feedback because who's to say where it is coming from. I am trying to rule out those with negative input. No matter what this site's agenda, I believe everyone has to be open minded and from my casual observation, I see a lot of people that have been around this site for quite a while trying to defend something that they aren't even sure about, themselves. As a consumer, I would assume that if I were hiring a law firm to represent me, that I would have qualified attorneys representing me every step of the way. If I am only going to be represented by a staff person, I would have to assume that any other company out there could perform the same services. The fact that it is called a law group would make me very suspicious so before all of you old timers jump on people with some legitimate questions (not agendas), try to be open minded enough to at least see some potential problems with the system. Looks to me that the debt settlement business will be doubling or tripling in size due charge offs doubling this year as compared to previous years, (3.5% to 7%) which means that all these new companies will be competing for fees worth maybe billions of dollars. That is quite an incentive for a lot of companies to attract new business and expand and expand they will. Most business's that grow too fast and don't plan accordingly fail. Growing too fast in this type of hands on service business can create many problems for the clients and I for one don't want to get tied up in the middle of one of these fiascos. Buyer be ware...caveat emptor.
This site should preach this each and every day because in this type of business, you don't get a second chance. You hire a company and they either help you or screw you. Let Rip Off reports, BBB, IC3 and AG offices do there job and allow this site to function for the sake of those people that want to do it on their own and make sure that things get done. At least if you screw it up yourself, you can only blame yourself. THINK ABOUT IT and then think about a lot of those people that you have been trying to help over the years and ask yourself what ever happened to them. There are dozens if not hundreds of debt settlement companies that are ripping people off every day in one way, shape or form and many of the clients just say the heck with it and continue down there path of credit and financial ruin.


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 11:46

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I think it's quite telling that alias1958's intemperate, indeed screaming post to the effect of "QUIT THREATENING TROLL JUST DO IT ALREADY!!" has disappeared without a trace.

Someone's got some play here, huh?

Guest, you're right: Caveat emptor indeed. Keep your eyes open and know who you're dealing with. Good luck to you.


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 12:02

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i am calling for this thread to be locked.there are people who need help here and all i see is this thread with your slime all over it getting bumped again.i have had it with you,and that is as uninteresting as you can get interesting.


Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 12:06

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You have valid points guest. It is always wise to do your due diligence prior to doing business with any company no matter what kind of service they are providing for you. I think what is going on here though is our other guest (last posted as Interesting) may or may not have had some valid points but he has ruined his credibility by being an @ss in almost all of his posts on a number of threads. I for one have had no dealings with OVLG so I will neither advocate nor defend them but I think if he had some real evidence then he should take it to the appropriate authorites instead of just slandering on some random forum. I will however defend the forums and the great utility they provide in general. The forums are free to anyone and many of us that post here have zero affiliation with this site or any companies this site may support.


Submitted by DOLLARSandSINCE on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 12:17

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What is going on here is simple, such figures as mobile and others have leisure to name all the debt settlement companies they want, with out a single name they place on here being deleted. They refer people to debt settlement companies they say are legit, have great BBB rating, etc...

If you want to give advise to people do not mention any names, forbid that kind of garbage from going on. tell people to check with their state and local officials. Maybe if some peole here stopped endorsing certain companies and agencies this discussion would not be going on.

Please make it mandatory not to mention company names, if these people want to continue to work on their referrals have them do it privately!


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 12:20

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what are you gonna do?sue us?i don't think so.you are not going to change this forum,

Edited to remove content per TOS - Goudah


Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 12:29

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