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Submitted by on Sun, 11/02/2008 - 09:20
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My 80 yr old dad co-signed about $50k of student loans for my niece. She graduated and got a job but says she can't repay. My parents get soc security and have some retirement income from my dad's job. they no way have or will have the money to repay this loan if my niece defaults. What happens?


This is not your daughters loan....she has no liability. This is your loan.

You could to chapter 13 but it is only a temporary stop gap. As soon as the chapter 13 is over, the remainder of the loan becomes due with all accrued and capitalized interest. It will also cause the loan to default.


Submitted by SOAPLADY on Sun, 04/18/2010 - 07:13

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Sub: #[URL="http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/showpost.php?p=454415&postcount=20"]20[/URL] Co-signer for niece but never received any papers?
"My sister asked me to co-sign for my niece to go to school. The original note was for $5K. I agreed but never received any paperwork. She said she did it electronically. Well they are late on payments and I have received a bill that shows the loan was for $8k. I never signed anything, what can I do?"

Soap Lady....I say the above post and didn't see that anyone responded. Is the co-signor above responsible for this loan considering he never signed the promisory note?


Submitted by shadow 310 on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 11:54

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You would have had to sign it electronically, not her. Did you give her your SS# to do it? How long have you known she electronically signed for it? Quite frankly, you may have grounds to fight this one if you just found out she signed electronically for you without giving a chance to review the prom note or disclosure.


Submitted by SOAPLADY on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 11:59

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You would have had to sign it electronically, not her. Did you give her your SS# to do it? How long have you known she electronically signed for it? Quite frankly, you may have grounds to fight this one if you just found out she signed electronically for you without giving a chance to review the prom note or disclosure.


Wouldn't he have to press Identity Theft charges on the person? That's a felony.


Submitted by shadow 310 on Fri, 04/23/2010 - 14:14

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Please need your advice:

I read some post, stating that if loans are consolidated with another company, than the co-signer is released from original loans, is this true?

It will be a bit of relief, because my father keeps complaining about constant harresmant he gets everyday by AES and SallieMae. By the way its for private loans, and I don't mind going into default after consolidation, I just want to remove my co-signer from my original loans, so nobody else gets hurt before the default starts...


Submitted by on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 00:49

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Please need your advice:

I read some post, stating that if loans are consolidated with another company, than the co-signer is released from original loans, is this true?

It will be a bit of relief, because my father keeps complaining about constant harresmant he gets everyday by AES and SallieMae. By the way its for private loans, and I don't mind going into default after consolidation, I just want to remove my co-signer from my original loans, so nobody else gets hurt before the default starts...


Gettting a consolidation loan for private loans is almost next to impossible ...very few lenders remain to consolidate these types of loans.
If you are getting calls everyday, that would tell me that you are behind which probably would rule you out without a cosignor.

Please do not call it harrassment...your father took on a legal liability when he cosigned for you....he is just as responsible for the loan as you are.


Submitted by SOAPLADY on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 04:36

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If as cosigner I pay off the student loan for a relative who refuses to pay can I sue and possibly get a judgment against the individual?


Also, can i SUE THE PARENT, IF THEY HAVE SIGNED A PROMISSORY NOTE?


Submitted by on Tue, 05/11/2010 - 20:22

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If as cosigner I pay off the student loan for a neice who has filed bankruptcy. What are my rights? Can I sue the parents of my neice? Both my neice and sister has signed a promissory note.


Submitted by on Tue, 05/11/2010 - 20:30

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If as cosigner I pay off the student loan for a neice who has filed bankruptcy. What are my rights? Can I sue the parents of my neice? Both my neice and sister has signed a promissory note.



Student loans are not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Sue the parents? Come on...they are not party to the debt. You took on the legal responsiblity and the risks. You cannot sue for your own bad judgement.


Submitted by SOAPLADY on Wed, 05/12/2010 - 03:35

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Question for you,

My parents have taken out approx. $50,000 in my name, then put themselves as the cosigner. I did not have any part in this, they used my name, social security number, electronic signature, etc. The loans were for my schooling, however, I was told when I was in high school that my parents would be paying for my college and they wanted me to go to a certain big school that was very high tuition.

Now, 7 years after my high school graduation, I am married, work a fulltime job and a part time job, and am looking to buy a house. My parents have ceased all communication with me 20 months ago, as they were unhappy that I became engaged. I received a letter yesterday from a CA telling me that my loans have defaulted and I am responsible for the money. I have never received any information from any loan, I do not know any loans amount, I do not have any log in information for any loan websites, I had NO IDEA the loans were not being paid. Now, I am held responsible for a debit that I never chose to have, my information was used as a way to send me to school.

What are my rights? What are the expectations for me? What should I do next? I am in no position to pay these loans back, did not take them on willingly, and would not have gone to college (or at least the one I went to) if the oral agreement between me and my parents was for ME to pay. The agreement was that I would go to college and THEY would pay all loans.

Thank you!!


Submitted by on Sun, 07/11/2010 - 15:55

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The oral agreement really means nothing. The only way you are going to get out of this is to file a police report for fraud and forgery against your parents. You will need to get a copy of the report and then file it with your lender. If they took loans out without your knowledge, they committed forgery. Harsh reality but this is going to be your only avenue.


Submitted by SOAPLADY on Sun, 07/11/2010 - 17:47

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I cosigned for a student loan, private, thru AES for 11k . Dumb, yes, even dumber yet, it was for my Girfriend (at the time) little sisters boyfriend (yeah I know... really dumb) Better yet, I live in seattle, he lives and was going to school in Fl (somewhere, yeah I dont even know where) His phone is now turned off, I can find him, He maybe in jail or dead for all i know... they are now talking defaulting the loan... any advice?


Submitted by on Tue, 07/20/2010 - 09:33

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so....one of my son's loans has gone into default. It was sold to a Guarantee Agency. Can you explain what this is? My son is currently underemployed (waits tables three evenings/week. Maybe earns 300/week in tips) and cannot find any employment. No assets. What happens in this situation? (He wanted to pay what he could, but the loan agency refused to negotiate a longer payment term, forbearance, etc.)


Submitted by on Fri, 07/23/2010 - 16:00

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Private loan. It seems like it's almost better to default. We (and my son) tried to work with the people who held the loan AES/Mellon Bank (it was sold to Mellon from Education Finance Partners...who were told would have worked with us....without notification to us) to no avail. So....what happens with a Guaranty Agency? They sent a bill for the entire loan amount (no extra fees or anything) or "call to set up a plan that will work for you". My son has yet to call as he is barely paying the rent. I think he should call anyway.


Submitted by on Fri, 07/23/2010 - 16:28

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Also....as far as wage garnishment. My son lives in Florida. Isn't there a head of household exemption? This is a private, not a federal loan.

We are cosigners on a very large loan of his. Unexpected medical bills (my younger son has had to have major surgery three times in the past 4 years) and loss of my husband's job has taken it's toll and we are also unable to pay the 450/mo payment. Our attorney (we recently filed bankruptcy) told us NH state law makes it almost impossible to garnish wages on private student loans. We have no assets, either. I suppose they could put a lien on our house, but we aren't planning on selling it and it's currently worth about what we owe on it or less. We are happy to pay something, just can't pay 450/month.


Submitted by on Fri, 07/23/2010 - 16:34

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I guess I'm wondering what they can get if they sue? No assets at all and at this point probably no tax refund either. And if he is head of household in FL and can't be garnished then what happens? Who brings the suit - the guaranty agency? The reason I felt that it seems better to default is because his credit is already in ruins and at least the guaranty agency said they would work with him whereas the lender would not. If you are set up with payments, why do they still sue?


Submitted by on Mon, 07/26/2010 - 18:14

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I don't understand what the suit is for, though. Do you just keep making payments and the judgement goes into effect if you miss a payment? I guess if my son knew this, he would just make sure everything (assets, accounts, etc.) were not in his name. As far as earnings, that's another matter. But, if he was earning money, he would pay on his own. You just can't pay if you don't have it. Right now it is a choice between being evicted or paying a bill. If he is evicted, he will lose his job as well.

And, again, isn't there a head of household exemption against garnishment in FL and isn't NH a state in which garnishment is extremely difficult? (Private loans).


Submitted by on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 04:56

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It is most definately NOT better to let a private loan default. Once he defaults, the entire balance becomes due in full. Even if he gets set up on payments, they will sue.....this is how private loans operate.
He only working 3 nights? Cant he find another part time job???





Can you PLEASE help me! I BEG of you! I started a thread under Silly Aries in this forum. Will you please go there to see if you can offer me any advice. I'm all out of options and I dont know what else to do. Please help if you can and God bless!


Submitted by on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 11:10

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I'm cosigned on a fed student loan. The payer missed a few payments, which showed up as a 60 days past due black mark on my otherwise sterling credit. While the loan is now deferred, the credit harm is done and still on my record and affecting my ability to get a mortgage.

Can anyone recommend a means to clear that up? I assume fed agencies are not especially motivated to help clear this up. I'm actually open to sucking it up and just paying off the whole loan, if that would help. But since I'm not sure it would, I am holding on to that money for now...

Best wishes,
C


Submitted by on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 16:30

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It was reported correctly -- I trusted the borrower that they were clearing it up, but they apparently did not do so until too late. I should have understood the gravity of it all better, I've just never had credit problems so I was naive about the risks.

So in that case neither paying it off nor talking to CRAs can change things? That is very unfortunate. Thank you for the information.


Submitted by on Tue, 07/27/2010 - 20:29

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So, reading the above questions and answers, looks like I am in a very similar situation. I have cosigned for my mother and stepfather who have rarely made payments on their federal student loan. It has destroyed my credit and I wish to get rid of it soon. Is it true the only option is court? What is the limmit for small claims? It is about 10 thousand right now.


Submitted by on Sat, 07/31/2010 - 10:40

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I took out private loans and they say that they are cosigned by my son. I am now disabled and living on social security. My son is now out of school and not making enought money to cover this loan too. I have been going round and round with SallieMae asking for help with this situation. They will not work with me at all. I have no assets. I already had to file bankruptcy and have read on the internet about undue hardship reguarding student loans. I only get 807.00 a month and they want 613.00 a month. I need to live. Do you know of anything I can do?


Submitted by on Thu, 09/16/2010 - 06:10

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I cosigned a pvt student loan with my son for $13,300. He refuses to pay back. I am on Social Security and some pension. Can AES garnish my income? Can I sue him? Would the bank leave me alone if I leave the country?


Submitted by on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 18:33

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When me and my husband were married I cosigned on a student loan for him. We are now divorced and I have been paying on the loan and he hasn't. Can I turn around and sue him for the amount of the loan after the loan is payed off?


Submitted by on Mon, 11/15/2010 - 07:54

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