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Payday loan collection harrassment

Date: Thu, 02/01/2007 - 17:13

Submitted by reckupjd
on Thu, 02/01/2007 - 17:13

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I need to know my rights. I received a call at 4:50pm on Feb. 1st, 2007 saying Henry Jay was an investigator and was filing check fraud charges against me first thing in the morning if I didn't pay $575 ASAP for a payday loan. I asked for the information and why I wasn't contacted earlier and he had no response. He just kept telling me that I would have my license showing a warrant and I needed to take care of it within 10 minutes. I live in MN. What are my rights? I can't find any information on this company (either the payday loan or the collector) but I have the phone number for the collector.


I think you need to maliciously write a check to go to jail for it, otherwise everyone who overdraws on their check card would be in prison. If you're worried, ask this for his name/address as well as if he knows that threatening BS criminal charges is much more illegal than writing a bad check.


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Submitted by on Fri, 11/20/2009 - 00:58

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I have been getting threatening calls at work and on my cell. They said I owe 1015 that they are charging me with money laundering, check fraud and one more. Anyway, they said I was in serious trouble. I asked them for documentation and they would not send it to me. The company is Fast Cash International and the two gentlemen are foreigners. Can they do anything. If I owe, I will pay but I need proof.


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Submitted by on Wed, 02/24/2010 - 11:43

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have been getting threatening calls at work and on my cell. They said I owe 1015 that they are charging me with money laundering, check fraud and one more. Anyway, they said I was in serious trouble. I asked them for documentation and they would not send it to me. The company is Fast Cash International and the two gentlemen are foreigners. Can they do anything. If I owe, I will pay but I need proof.
They even forwarded my work number to call my cell and when I answered they were on the phone.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 02/24/2010 - 11:45

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They can not charge you criminal charges for a debt. They owe you proof of your debt. First off you need to start filing complaints with the BBB, Attorney General, FTC, and www.ic3.gov. What ever you do, do not agrue with them. Just hang up. I would also suggest keep a log of the calls. If you can find the address, email or fax do a Cease and Desist letter and get it out to them. Might not stop them but you never know


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Submitted by Jasgal on Wed, 02/24/2010 - 13:18

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I received a call yesterday from a company working for CheckN go where myself and my husband took out payday loans. They told me that it was a felony for a husband and wife to take out a loan with the same company. I live in FL, they told me that if I didn't make any payment that they where going to arrest us both and not ask for bail. Since the two loans together equal $1100.00 they would also charge us with grand larceny. My husband just started working after being laid off for two years. I don't know if this was a scam but if it was illegal to give a husband and wife loans, then why did they do that? When I called the number this moring all I get is a recorded message but it doesn't give the companies name, what do I do? They told me if I missed a payment good luck.


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Submitted by on Thu, 02/25/2010 - 03:58

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I received a call yesterday from a company working for CheckN go where myself and my husband took out payday loans. They told me that it was a felony for a husband and wife to take out a loan with the same company. I live in FL, they told me that if I didn't make any payment that they where going to arrest us both and not ask for bail. Since the two loans together equal $1100.00 they would also charge us with grand larceny. My husband just started working after being laid off for two years. I don't know if this was a scam but if it was illegal to give a husband and wife loans, then why did they do that? When I called the number this moring all I get is a recorded message but it doesn't give the companies name, what do I do? They told me if I missed a payment good luck.


whoever this was broke the law themselves in threatening jail.do not pay them a thing.whatever means you gave them to pay cancel it.then file a police report for the threats.then use whatever number came up on caller id to file AG,and FTC complaints against this bottomfeeder.again a botomfeeder that broke the law in threatening jail.do not pay them.file the rport,and the complaints.then do not talk to them again.when they call,hang up on them as that is what they deserve.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Thu, 02/25/2010 - 04:35

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I had a collector contact me today trying to collect on a payday loan. I believe the initial loan was $300 & they want to collect over $500. After some dialogue w/ the collector he became rude and said the option to pay $500 is now waived and he is now goin to collect a total amount of over $1000. He proceeded to call me broke and ask why I got the loan if I cldnt repay it. I asked him for original documents and he basically danced around it. After he hung up I called back a couple times attempting to get contact info to send a certified letter and neither rep wanted to give me an address. Eventually a rep put a supervisor on the line who also declined to give me an address. The funny thing is when I became aggressive and started asking the questions they suddenly didn't want to talk anymore and even asked why I kept calling back.lol. I also recorded the convo and he said I had to have permission to do so. Who cares...


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Submitted by on Thu, 02/25/2010 - 07:53

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I had a collector contact me today trying to collect on a payday loan. I believe the initial loan was $300 & they want to collect over $500. After some dialogue w/ the collector he became rude and said the option to pay $500 is now waived and he is now goin to collect a total amount of over $1000. He proceeded to call me broke and ask why I got the loan if I cldnt repay it. I asked him for original documents and he basically danced around it. After he hung up I called back a couple times attempting to get contact info to send a certified letter and neither rep wanted to give me an address. Eventually a rep put a supervisor on the line who also declined to give me an address. The funny thing is when I became aggressive and started asking the questions they suddenly didn't want to talk anymore and even asked why I kept calling back.lol. I also recorded the convo and he said I had to have permission to do so. Who cares...

They aren't worth getting upset over, if they refuse to give you an address to send payments, it's their problem.


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Submitted by Shazzers on Thu, 02/25/2010 - 07:58

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Originally Posted by michelle varney
debt pay 1 --says a consolidation company but how do i know id this is a legal company and not a scam i am in mo they said if i pay them a fee up front of $110 thenwe can start the process of consolidating my pay day loans..help

Montana requires Internet Payday lenders to be licensed in your state, you can check the link below, if they aren't there, they are operating illegally.
http://banking.mt.gov/licensees.mcpx


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Submitted by Shazzers on Thu, 03/25/2010 - 19:59

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Originally Posted by michelle varney
i'm in missouri i need to know if the consolidation loan company debt pay 1 is a legal company or does someone know the best company to help me get out of pay day hell

OK, sorry, it was late when I posted last night, so the same goes for your state, payday lenders need to be licensed in your state and you can check at the link below:
http://finance.mo.gov/licenseesearch/


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Submitted by Shazzers on Fri, 03/26/2010 - 09:09

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these diffrent collections agency keep calling first thing they say is im calling from a law firm what is your attorney's name and number .. and then calling in regards to a pay day loan and stating i have 2hrs to come up with the money or they are downloading my information to a court and someone will come to my job . and telling you are going to deal with the conseqenses.. what should i do


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 03/29/2010 - 09:27

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I keep the same kind of phone call saying I have taken a payday loan out back in 2007 & 2008 that I did not payback. I ask for all the information on the payday loan company they refuse to give it. I have been threatened that I would be seved at work with papers. I have even had them tell me I needed to appear in court the next day with my lawyer. Every payday loan that I have had I paid off. How can I stop them from callin.g I have already changed my cell number but the keep calling me at work but the refuse to leave a message.


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Submitted by on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 08:58

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I keep the same kind of phone call saying I have taken a payday loan out back in 2007 & 2008 that I did not payback. I ask for all the information on the payday loan company they refuse to give it. I have been threatened that I would be seved at work with papers. I have even had them tell me I needed to appear in court the next day with my lawyer. Every payday loan that I have had I paid off. How can I stop them from callin.g I have already changed my cell number but the keep calling me at work but the refuse to leave a message.

I really doubt if you can actually stop them from calling, however, if you refuse to talk to them and simply hang up they will tire sooner of talking to thin air rather then someone to argue with.


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Submitted by Shazzers on Wed, 04/28/2010 - 09:01

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I have dealt with "Roger" and "Jason Fox" at this 646-736-0577. Roger says it's Cox Inc (a conveniently ambiguous name...as are the American names these scammers use). When I received a threatening voice mail message, I could hear others in the background leaving the exact same message to others! They claim to be filing a lawsuit with Payday US or USA Payday...they can't make up their mind. They use a lame script that refers to my location at "the state you are in". I actually questioned Roger if he knew what state I was in. He got so flustered because he didn't speak English well enough to understand the the question, that he had to hand the phone to Jason Fox.
Bottom line...NEVER give (or confirm) information over the phone. File an Identity Theft complaint with the FTC and your state's Attorney General's office. The phone numbers are fake and purchased by bulk from major phone companies. The numbers can't be tracked because the phone companies won't demand verifiable information and most of the numbers are actually attached to phones located in the West Indies (via phone cards) and are most likely in the Bahamas where there is little financial regulation. If they have your bank info, talk to the bank manager about the ID theft and close your account. Tell your phone company the same thing and they may wave the phone number changing fee. Once you get a file number with the FTC complaint, make sure your local police department has it too.
If enough people put pressure on their State Representatives, we can gets laws to force phone companies to verify the phone numbers sales and put a stop to the scamming. It's sad to think how many people pay these criminals because they are scared and don't know any better.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 23:11

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I have had the same thing happen to me. Back in 2007 due to issues with identity theft I closed my checking out. The problem occurred when I attempted to contacted companies that were drawing automatically from my account. Contacting my utility company was easy, but when I tried to track the payday loan companies that I was paying back I had a time, since most of the payday loans have similiar names and I had about 2 or 3 going at one time. I have been using payday loans for years prior to this incident and never had a problem paying them back. In October I started receiving call from a company- persons calling with a accent and addressing themselves as sargeants and tellling me the same as the posts above. "You are going to be served with court papers if you do not pay this loan, you will never be able to write checks again,court papers are going to be filed tomorrow". I have cussed a plenty of these people out. I think since October I have paid a total of $4000 to these companies. It's like as soon as a pay one off, another calls immediately after. I just finished paying 976.00 to a company last week and yesterday another company called with the same line,"this is regarding a legal matter, court papers are getting ready to be filed in your state". The part that gets me is that when I ask them for something in writing, they cannot provide me with anything, but yet I am required to write them a letter authorizing them to take my money. What kind of mess is that? A company that cannot even provide a standard letter to the consumer? These payloans need to be put out of business. Further more, I do not beleive these companies that they are using to collect the debt are even in the US even if they do provide a number that is in the states. And what is the chance of all these companies all having employees, including the directors or managers and everyone speaks broken english????


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sat, 05/08/2010 - 03:57

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Neena,

The problem is that in a effort to avoid going into a storefront PDL or due to the legality of PDL's in your state, you went online. Borrowing from a PDL online opens up an enprmous amount of issues as you are now aware. This is like the Wild West, no regulations or responsibility. Based on what you have stated, it sounds like you had loans with companies that did not carry a license in your state and then sold your past due account to a collection agency that was not licensed in your state. The issue is that you can report this to anyone and everyone, but they will not be able to help you because of the inability to locate the anonymous company or if they can find them, jurisdiction issues with them being based outside of the USA.

Unfortunately, hindsight is 20/20 and you cannot change what took place in the past. You must formulate a plan to move forward and there are many on here that can assist.

Regarding your last comment about putting all PDL's out of business, that would be a mistake. All that eliminating the legal lenders will do is to drive more good people to the very ones on the internet that are harassing you. Would you wish this on your worst enemy knowing what you know now?

There is a light at the end of the tunnel as hard as it may be to see at this time. Stay tough.


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Submitted by PDLOwner on Sat, 05/08/2010 - 14:24

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I had a payday loan through Shamrock Marketing, LLC on 05/19/09. The loan was for $200. After accepting the loan, I contacted them to tell them I couldn't afford to repay them after their high fees. I had also done some research on the company, (after agreeing to the loan) and noticed quite a few rip off reports about their bad debt collection practices and ridiculous fees. They continued to debit my bank account, which eventually got charged off. Now, a year later (or all year long, should I say), they've been sending me threatening emails. They never agree to send anything through regular mail, and the most recent email I received says my balance is now $652 and if I don't pay, they will use an "E-Check Recovery" service, which scans my social security number for ANY United States bank account, and that they will go in without my permission to debit the full balance of the loan. First, I live in PA, and I know that a debt collector can't charge me more than a certain percentage in interest. But can they legally do this e-check thing?


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Submitted by on Fri, 05/21/2010 - 14:44

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i received a call from a close friend today and he told me that a nelson & hirsch associates contacted him looking for me. I called them and they told me it regards a fraud case from a payday loan place in st. Louis, mo for $520. The company was calling from georgia. The loan was taken out in 2002 and they had all the right information. I didn't pay it back then and haven't since then. It is 2009 and this is the first i have heard of it in around 6 or 7 years. Being scared like i was of fraud charges and it going on my record, not to mention jail time i gave over my debit card number to my bank in idaho in which i live now and all the info that goes along with my card. (current address, three digit security number, and debit card number) i arranged 3 payments starting in 5 days for $175 a piece. Getting to the end of the call i asked if i was being charged with fraud and they said no. After getting off the phone i am now concerned that i have been strong armed into paying this back. I plan on paying this back, but now wasn't really an opportune time of course (as it never is.) i am a student and have limited income. Student loan residules would pay this back in august of this year, but that is still months off. I'm worried now that i have made a mistake in believing that this is a criminal case and i may be found guilty of fraud and go to jail. This charge of course would ruin my future career. Is this a debt collection strategy or this a fraud case? Have i been suckered into believing i am in grave danger of jail and fraud charges? Please help as i can not afford to retain an attorney's advice.


it is a seven year debt and they know they cant collect!!! So now they are using scar tactics to get you to pay on something that should be removed from credit any ways in missouri the statute of limitation is only 5 years!!! They are bogus and smart or so they think


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Submitted by on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 09:36

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Originally Posted by OhioGal1
Uh, no. They are to send you a Dunning letter within 5 days of first contact. They can take their sweet time validating, if they ever do.


right on target ohiogal1.in fact the law requires that once initial contact is complete.a dunning letter must be sent within 5 days.again it is part of the FDCPA.as far as validation.only in texas has a hard deadline of 30days.if the collector can't or doesn't validate in that time.they must cease all collection efforts entirely.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 14:08

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I too am like the many on hear who have made the mistake of borrowing from payday loans by both storefronts and internet. My last was in 2006. I have paid most of them back and the few left are really harrassing me. I would like to take care of the rest but these collection folks will not work with me. I will try what has been mentioned in the forum by contacting an attorney. I don't mind them calling my cell but to call my job and leave embarrassing messages is another thing. They also use an automated service to do this. Can I file these messages with the attorney general? If they are calling my friends and family they have been kind enough to ignore them and not let me know. I have learned a good although I must say that those who let me pay them back were very nice and took my monthly payments with no other harrassments. One even said I paid them too much back. But again this was back in 2007.


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Submitted by on Fri, 07/16/2010 - 06:29

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I have dealt with a man calling from Ace Cash threatening to "proceed with the necessary action" and refusing to accept my payments even though I told him of a job loss and decreased household income. They are not nice at the corporate level either. All of my other creditors are working with me under the circumstances but not ACE. I will continue to make payments online to try to remedy this situation but is there anything else I can do in the mean time?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 09/21/2010 - 10:06

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Tell them your lawyer would like a written statement that you owe the money and how much is owed and when the loan was paid out and since they tell you they have all your information tell them to send the statement to the address of record and your lawyer will call them as soon as the statement arrives. If you can you need to see if you can get all the information that you can and then report them to the fbi in your state

do not confirm any personal information


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Submitted by on Thu, 11/18/2010 - 13:39

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I received a call from someone stating we are investigation you for check fraud. Then they gave me a name of a company in which I have never heard of. Once I told them that I have never heard of this company she asked could someone else have used my info, I told her, that might be possible. Then she asked that I hold on, a few minutes later another person comes on the phone as said that this fraud investigator. We are file a charge for check fraud with your county courts. Do you have a lawyer? I told her no because I didn't know what she was talking about. Then she said you took out a payday loan and the company has turned over to us for fraud. What's the name of her company, she replied they are check system they investigate bad checks. Then I said so you are with check system, at that point she appeared to become angry and said to me, "you said you didn't know who we are, but you do we will see you in court". Then she hung up. What do I need to do, I have their phone number, but the company name did not show up. I did a reverse number on 411, but no company name matched, it was a unlisted number


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Submitted by on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 14:32

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Hello I have been getting several calls from a person from the Centeral Investigation Litigation they are claming that I got a payday loan this year for 200 dollars and I have to pay them 450.00 back. If I do not pay them I will be arrested and they will be sending the police over my place of employment, The first time I got the call I was shocked because I know for a fact that I did not get a payday loan. I did apply for some but the all denied me due to my credit and that I didnt make enough money to get one. So I am very worried because these people keep calling me over and over and they do not stop. What can I do are these people really true and how much power do they have? The name of the girl is Michelle Mark and the number is 704-456-1168 please help me?


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Submitted by on Mon, 12/13/2010 - 09:03

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well for starters file a police report as she broke the law in stating you will be arrested as debts are civil matters.think about it if they were legit they wouldn't be calling over,and over with the same threats.file the report.then file AG,AND FTC complaints against this bottomfeeding scam because that is what they are.then ignore them,or try not to speak to them as they just want someone to argue with.don't give them that.it's a waste of time to talk to them.to close this scam has no power at all,but to call and be stupid with the threats.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Mon, 12/13/2010 - 09:58

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I got a call today from a restricted number telling me that I needed to call another number because he has a summons for me. He gave me a number and a case file. I called the number asked what it was in regards to. The lady told me that I took out a loan in October of 07. I don't deny taking it out, but I seriously thought it had been paid back. I haven't heard anything from this or any other debt collector.
I asked for a copy of any paperwork and she told me that it was sent to an attorney or someone and I couldn't see it. I would just need to pay or wait until I was ordered to court. Is this true? What if anything should I do?


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Submitted by on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:49

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I got a call today from a restricted number telling me that I needed to call another number because he has a summons for me. He gave me a number and a case file. I called the number asked what it was in regards to. The lady told me that I took out a loan in October of 07. I don't deny taking it out, but I seriously thought it had been paid back. I haven't heard anything from this or any other debt collector.
I asked for a copy of any paperwork and she told me that it was sent to an attorney or someone and I couldn't see it. I would just need to pay or wait until I was ordered to court. Is this true? What if anything should I do?


First of all, NEVER admit to owing a debt to a voice on the phone! I wouldn't do anything until I received a letter of collection via the mail. A process server just shows up at your door with a summons, they certainly wouldn't call in advance. It sound very scammy to me.


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Submitted by Shazzers on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:00

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I had just recieved a very threatening call stating that "a retainer will be sent to my employer" and several calls have been made to my employer. I do have a dept with a payday loan, but I am in a bad situation right now. I am trying to file for bankruptcy, because these people are literally scaring the hell out of me. At one point a man named Roger told my 15yr old son "May god be with your mother for what she is about to go through" and "she will e arrested". The latest call that I recieved was today.... from a firm called Lombardo Davis and Goldman. Do I call her back since this is now an attorneys office and state my claim? Can I make SMALL payment arrangements? I am a single mom and these people have me afraid to even let my kids home because of the threats that I have recieved. Can anyone offer me any help???? Even the "Lawyer referral" service charges $50.00 to even set up the appointment for a consultation!


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Submitted by on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:56

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First of all you cannot be arrested and go to jail for a default on a payday loan. This is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. What State do you live in and who is the payday lender? Is it an internet loan or storefront loan? How much did you borrow and how much have you paid back? Please respond to these questions and someone on this forum will be able to help you.


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Submitted by Lizzie1014 on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 11:51

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I am not even sure! I know that it was internet. But I just recently separated from my husband and about 3-4 months ago he did this. Of course I said ok because it was to repair our car, but when he left... I closed my account! I know that I have it and I am not running from it but I have, very quickly, went from 2 incomes to 1. But this firm has never sent anything to me in writing nor did they offer me a payment plan. I dont even know how much was paid on it because I closed my account!! Is this really a firm or just another way to collect monies? And can they do this at my place of employment?


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Submitted by on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 12:04

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well since not only are all pdl's illegal in PA,but you are a non-garnishment state meaning they can't garnish even with a court order.file AG,AND FTC complaints against the bottomfeeder threatening you illegaly.then file a police report as well.again it does not matter as the loan was illegal,and they can't garnish.file the report,and complaints and please try to either ignore them or hang up without a word when they call again.they just want someone to argue with.don't give them that.


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Submitted by paulmergel on Fri, 12/17/2010 - 13:02

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I actually got the same type of call this week. I decided to have some fun with it as I could tell it was one of these calls.

Call kind of goes like this... I get a call from someone with a heavy middle eastern accent... His name is Dan Richardson.. (really, that is a first for me. ) So he says something that I can barely understand and then tells me to hold. So i hold. then a guy named Adam Chandler gets on the phone and claims to be a Senior Attorney from some place called Federal something or other.

He tells me that I am being investigated for four counts of federal wire fraud due to not paying back my Payday loan and that the Marshall's will be coming to get me if I don't take care of this. So I then inform him that if the Marshall's were already coming to get me than this conversation is a moot point because once an arrest warrant has been issued it can only be retracted by a judge. So he then tells me I need to pay this or i will get sued on my original $350 and it will balloon to $5,210. So I then told him that $350 in MD was a small claims court case and the fees would never go that high. I guess now he is getting flustered and asks for someone named Eric who has been listening on the line. He tells eric to get the investigators out to my house. I aksed him if they could come soon as I was leaving on vacation. He didnt' like that.

So I decided to do some research of my own while he was on the phone. I asked for his name again. He told me. Adam Chandler. Then I asked what his position was he told me Sr. Attorney. So I then asked what state he was in. He told me Texas, which was weird cause he called from a California number. I went to the Texas Bar website and looked him up. He wasn't there. .I told him that and he said it was because he was really in CA and was just visiting an office in TX. I then looked him up in CA. Not there either. I told him this and then informed him that it was against the law to pretend to be an attorney to collect a debt. He then hung up on me...

I did get a call back a day later from the middle eastern guy saying that I needed to call them back or all he could tell me was good luck for what was about to happen.

Had they called me a few years ago, they may have gotten me. But I have seen way to many scams out there now.

Also what I thought was weird is when I asked the name of the PayDay Loan company. He said he could not give that to me until I had paid the money. And he could not give me written confirmation of the debt. But since he gave me the original amount I knew what company it was. And I had just worked out a payment to the original company to pay back the loan amount without fees or interest a few days before they called.


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Submitted by mjohnson75 on Sun, 12/19/2010 - 08:59

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I have an Ace payday loan from September, today they called an ex, my mom, and my work. I spoke with 'Mr. Simon', wouldn't give me his full name. I advised him I could pay the loan in a few weeks, he said it was today or he was moving forward with this 'process'. He mentioned garnishing wages. I checked and it looks like in TX he will not be able to do this. I He scared the crap out of my mother and she will be giving me the money to pay but that won't be until next week. Does anyone have any additional information that I need to know. I mean if I wait till next week to make this payment, can he still file civil charges? If payment is made that won't hold up in court right? These people just want there money right, so court is a last resort? How long before I get a hit on my telecheck status, as I have been told this is really the main repercussion? I was also advised to advise him I can only pay a certain portion of loan, and see if he will settle other wise he will have to wait for full payment. Will that be sufficient? Any inof is much appreciated!


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Submitted by on Wed, 12/22/2010 - 18:54

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