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Debt relief USA & Credit Score

Date: Sat, 03/03/2007 - 11:13

Submitted by anonymous
on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 11:13

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debt relief USA claim that my current score (640) will drop to 560 during the settlement process (38k of unsecured debt with 5 creditors), and then will go back up to 700s.
I find it very hard to believe, but the lady on the phone told me that she saw it happaning 1000 times.

Is anyone have real experience with credit scores going up after the debt settlement?

Thanks
Andrei


Doubtful...I'll explain my understanding of debt settlement programs:

You typically pay a fee for the service
Some may send various dispute letters to the creditors
Your accounts go into default (your bills don't get paid for a while)
The company then attempts to settle the debts for a portion (standard seems to be 60-80%) of the original debt
Your credit score tanks, as it now has a late payment history, and accounts not paid in full.

Additionally, some creditors may not settle, but instead persue litigation, giving them a judgement, which:

has a longer SOL to collect on
stays on your credit report
allows for various writs (lien, garnishment, etc...)


You could try to have your score boosted by disputing negative info on your CR when all is said and done, but once verified, it may very well be replaced.


lrhall41

Submitted by Morningstar on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 11:52

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Debt settlement shows your credit with R9 rating. This program is often considered to be the last resort before filing bankruptcy. This program will lower the scores by a large margin. You have to show good payment history on other accounts to raise your scores. Don't be reluctant in using this program if this is the only way to pay the debts. At this point, your scores should not be the important concern if you want to pay the debts and become debt free. Later, you can improve your scores by other means.


lrhall41

Submitted by Bony on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 12:48

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You are right Bony, with this amount of debt I souldn't be consern with my score :(
I just called Freedom debt relief and talked with them. The guy sounded very convincing... their cut is 15% of settled debt. He assured me that their affilate will work with me after the program to improve my score...

Anywat, at this point in my life, I dont' care anymore what my credit score is, I just want to be debt free.

The main thing right now is to choose reputable company...any suggestions anyone?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 13:13

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I heard good feedbacks about Freedom point. I also know that companies like Superior debt relief and Forgetadebt is used by many people here. You may try different quotes from the companies and compare the best deals offered. Many settlement companies don't settle the accounts as mentioned in the contract. And they add a point that in case the creditor takes legal actions during the negotiation process, they are not responsible to back your case in the court. Make sure that you are with the right company that assures you positive results.


lrhall41

Submitted by ricjil on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 13:36

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Thanks for the advice.. I'm currently choosing betweek Freedom and Superior...

Is there any company outthere that will help you out with legal actions too?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 13:45

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Thanks, I will try to contant forgetdent then...

Did anybody else dealt with this company?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sat, 03/03/2007 - 20:03

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they're one of the biggest and probably the best. they helped settle my debts, and be sure that you are ready for your credit score to drop (but mine already sucked) but they take care of you.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 04/03/2008 - 11:24

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they're one of the biggest and probably the best. they helped settle my debts, and be sure that you are ready for your credit score to drop (but mine already sucked) but they take care of you.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 04/03/2008 - 11:24

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I am totally outraged by this company. I asked a counsellor on the phone if they can start aggressively negotiating my debts to settle ASAP. She told me I had to pay the 10% fee first. I did that and sent my bank statement. Nothing. In the meantime I settled one of the debts myself. Two days ago I got a letter from them stating my debt load increased, which is false. They want an additional $100/month for 36 months, but the whole term was supposed to be 36 months to begin with! So, I am going to take action against this company for their nonaction. They are impossible to reach as well.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 08:14

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I am presently bing helped(I hope) and have heard negative things about this Co. Iaddressed my conerns to a condultant name of Joanne Aronow who assured me that all complaints have been settled. Can anyone dealing or have dealt with this Co give me some advise? please thanks


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 12:05

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This might have something to do with it:

Illinois Sues Two Debt Settlement Firms
SDS West, Debt Relief USA accused of deceptive practices

May 6, 2009

Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan warned consumers facing significant credit card debt about the risks of debt settlement offers as she announced two lawsuits filed against debt settlement firms.
Madigan's lawsuits allege that the companies ??? SDS West Corporation, Aliso Viejo, Calif. and Debt Relief USA, Inc., Addison, Texas ??? engage in deceptive marketing practices, charge excessive fees and do little or nothing to improve consumers' financial standing.
"Too many people who find themselves under a mountain of credit card debt are tempted to turn to debt settlement companies that often worsen their financial problems," Madigan said. "After being enticed by these companies promises to reduce debt, consumers too often end up owing more than their original credit card debt."
Madigan said her office has seen an increase in advertisements for debt settlement companies that promise to significantly reduce consumers credit card debt and provide them with an alternative to bankruptcy protection. Typically, after consumers enroll in debt settlement programs, the companies charge excessive upfront fees and advise consumers to stop paying their credit card bills.
Despite this advice, the debt settlement companies fail to begin negotiations with consumers credit card companies for several months. As a result, credit card companies add fees and penalties to consumers credit card balances and often even begin collection efforts to recoup the debt, all of which puts the consumers in a worse financial situation.
In many instances, while consumers were enrolled in debt settlement programs, credit card companies have sued the consumers to collect the balance on the consumers accounts.
The lawsuits filed by Madigan name:

??? SDS West Corporation, an Aliso Viejo, Calif.-based debt settlement agency; Bruce Hood, the Chief Operating Officer of SDS West; SDS West's Chief Executive Officer, Raymond Dorso; Nationwide Support Services, Inc., an Irvine, Calif.-based debt settlement servicer; and Joanne Garneau, President of Nationwide Support Services; and


??? Debt Relief USA, Inc., a debt settlement firm based in Addison, Texas and Kelly E. Reilly, the President of Debt Relief USA.
SDS West
According to Madigan s complaint, SDS West and its business partner Nationwide Support Services inform consumers that their debt mediation services will help to reduce consumers debt by nearly 50 percent and that consumers will be debt-free in 12 to 36 months.
SDS West primarily markets the business partnership s debt settlement services, while Nationwide Support Services allegedly conducts the settlement negotiations with creditors. Madigan's complaint alleges that most consumers are unaware that Nationwide, not SDS West, performs the actual negotiations on their behalf.
The defendants tout their services as universally better than credit counseling and bankruptcy protection, and they allegedly promise consumers that they will contact all the consumers credit card companies and negotiate substantially reduced settlements of the outstanding credit card balances. From 2006 to the present, hundreds of Illinois consumers have enrolled in the defendants debt settlement program.
When consumers enroll in the program, they allegedly are instructed to stop making payments to the credit card companies and, instead, make monthly payments to the defendants program in order to build up a lump sum for use by Nationwide Support Services in negotiating a settlement with the credit card companies.
However, the first payments go toward a substantial fee of approximately 15 percent of the consumers total credit card debt. Consumers also are charged a monthly $50 maintenance fee. Madigan s complaint alleges that consumers did not understand (1) that their monthly payments would be used to pay fees before any performance of services on their behalf, and (2) that it takes several months to accumulate a lump sum payment to begin negotiating a payoff with the credit card companies.
Debt Relief USA
In the second lawsuit, Madigan alleges that Debt Relief USA promised consumers that its services would help reduce credit card debt by 40 to 60 percent and that consumers could be debt-free in as little as 36 months.
However, according to the complaint, Debt Relief USA failed to negotiate substantial reductions on most consumers accounts. Madigan s complaint alleges that most Illinois consumers dropped out of the program before Debt Relief USA settled any debt on their behalf, but after the consumers paid Debt Relief USA s nonrefundable fees.
From 2005 to 2008, at least 470 Illinois consumers enrolled in the Debt Relief USA program. When consumers enroll in the Debt Relief USA program, the defendants allegedly instruct consumers to stop paying their credit card bills and, instead, pay a monthly fee to Debt Relief USA based on how much they owe.
The defendants allegedly apply the first several monthly payments toward Debt Relief USA s upfront fee of up to 10 percent of the consumer s credit card debt. The defendants also apply each monthly payment toward Debt Relief USA s monthly maintenance fee of $29.95 to $39.95. The remainder of the monthly payment goes into an escrow account until enough money accrues to make a settlement offer to the credit card company, which often takes several months.
During this time, the complaint alleges, Debt Relief USA fails to attempt to settle any debts on consumers behalf. In addition, when Debt Relief USA reaches a settlement on one of the consumer s accounts, the company charges the consumer a settlement fee that is equal to 13 percent of the amount by which Debt Relief USA was able to reduce the consumer s debt through settlement negotiations.
In both cases, Madigan s complaints allege that the defendants have violated the Illinois Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act by misrepresenting the services they can provide to consumers and the impact that those services will have on consumers credit. Each complaint asks the court to enter a permanent injunction barring the defendants from engaging in debt settlement in Illinois and to order the defendants to pay restitution for aggrieved consumers, civil penalties of $50,000 for violating the Consumer Fraud Act, and an additional $50,000 for each violation committed with the intent to defraud.
Credit counseling
Madigan encouraged consumers in financial trouble to consider credit counseling instead of debt settlement services. The Attorney General advised consumers to look for credit counseling services that charge modest fees and provide true financial and budget counseling based on a consumer's personal circumstances.
In some instances, credit counselors may recommend that a consumer consult a debt management service, which will set up a debt payment plan based on the consumer s income, expenses, and debts. The consumer then makes one monthly payment which the debt management service provider then distributes to the consumer's creditors.




Read more: .consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/05/il_debt.html#ixzz0HfyA8dJJ&C


lrhall41

Submitted by on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 11:31

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