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Payday loan help

Date: Tue, 03/11/2008 - 18:12

Submitted by anonymous
on Tue, 03/11/2008 - 18:12

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I just figured out how to post a new thread - sorry about that. Here's my original message and then I'll fill in the specifics about the loans.

Hi,
I'm also new to this site and pretty clueless as to how to post etc. I'm in a terrible situation and am desparate. I have at least 8 payday loans (some have to be paid in full every pay day others roll over)and I keep getting deeper and deeper in because I don't have the money to payback, therefore, I get another just to live. I have another pay day this Friday and my check won't cover my loan payments let alone have money for bills and essentials. I live in PA, and all of my loans are from internet sites.

Payday online - 2 loans 1 for 350 (8/07)& 1 for 200 (10/07)
Mycashnow - 550 (11/19)
Worldwide cash 200.00 (8/24)
CashtransferCenters 450.00 (pay in full each pay day)
Littleloanshop - 300 (1/9)
LoanpointUSA - 300 (12/19)
Zipcash - 300 (1/17)

Not sure what to do next -
Sharlene


Sharlene, angell and purple posted great stuff for you! angell is right. If the debits hit and were blocked, they're not going to try to hit again so soon. They don't know yet that the debits were blocked. You can act quickly and take out your money (great job on getting an account at a new bank!) and have the block put back on (make sure it is put back on!). Just act quickly. Now, my only "thing" is that they made you write a check for cash. They have to wait for that to "clear". When I had my hard debit block, I would go in, tell them there is a block on my account; however, I needed to withdraw funds. All they had me do was fill out a withdrawl form and sign it. They gave me the money and the block was put back on. No checks were involved. That's my concern here. Why did they make you write a check, that needs to post to your account, then clear your account, etc. That takes time. And within that small time window, debits can go through. That is confusing me. I swear, I didn't write checks for cash. It was more like a little "form" to withdraw my funds and I signed it and they signed it. Then I said "Is the block on?" and they said "yes". I did this several times, as I was getting refunds from some of my pdls. So each time I saw a deposit made, I went to the bank, did my "thing", walked out with the money, and the block was put back on. I'm kind of confused as to why they made you write a check knowing the risk of having that block off (even for a short time period).


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 16:38

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barbie, We will be more than happy to help but we need a little more information. Please tell us what state you live in, whether they are storefront or internet, how much you borrowed from each and the total of how much you have paid back to each. Also, if you could, when you post the information I asked for, could you please start your own thread. If will be easier for you to find your information and for us to find you as well. It will also help for you to keep all your information in the same place.


lrhall41

Submitted by RoxyNY on Sun, 03/16/2008 - 16:12

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Recieved an error message when I tried to post my pdl list yesterday - so hopefully this will work. I look at now and can't believe I let things spiral so out of control! :oops: :cry: :evil:

Cash Transfer Centers 450.00 0.00
Fast Cash Loans 300.00 0.00
my cash now 550.00 868.20
Discount Advance 340.00 0.00
Apple Day 350.00 806.32
E Payday 300.00 910.00
Cash Today 4You 350.00 720.00
United 350.00 715.00
Pay Day Online 350.00 1365.00
Pay Day Online 200.00 660.00
CashNet USA 500.00 313.75
World Wide Cash 200.00 1157.00
PayCheck Today 300.00 360.00
Oakmont Funding 300.00 450.00
CashAdvance Network(MTE) 300.00 180.00
Little Loanshop 300.00 450.00
Impact Cash 350.00 210.00
Zip Cash 500.00 450.00
Money and More 255.00 0.00
PayDay One 650.00 341.88
ameriloan 400.00 0.00
First Bank Of Delaware 1000.00 545.67
Grace Period 500.00 70.00

The Grace Period loan is legitimate, church sponsored agency in my area that tries to help people with low interest loan.

Not sure how to catagorize the 1st Bank of Delaware - I initally applied online @ Check n Go and was bounced to 1st Bank of Delaware. It feels like a pdl, but I think it would be considered an installment loan (26 biweekly payments of 60.63)

The block is back on my bank acount - but not before running up over 800.00 in NSF charges. I've opened 2 new accounts at another bank and have stopped my direct deposit.

The calls have started - must be getting 8-10 on my cell and office line.

What do I do next??


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 06:25

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Sharlene, is the bank going to work with you on the NSF. I can not believe they made you do that. I makes no sense to me. You are correct about First BAnk of Deleware, it is an installment loan so you are oginog to have to work out a payment plan with them. The others..it looks like most of them are close to paid or overpaid. I notice you have Cash Transfer Center. You need to do a letter to them and to your payroll revoking any wage assignment you may have signed. Let me go back through your threads and see if we posted the letters for you yet. If not I will post them and an explanation for you.


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Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 07:02

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Sharlene, so your bank account that these pdls have the information on is to the point to where they can no longer debit, correct? We need to make sure the bank account is "safe" from the pdls and we're going to get some letters sent out to these pdls and file some complaints. Okay? roxy is checking out the letters to see what we need to post for you. In the meantime, Cash Transfer Centers - do you work? CTC will send a wage assignment to you employer. We need to get your butt covered on that quick before they send one. As roxy said, First Bank of Delaware is an installment loan. Totally different from a pdl. And your chuch loan, okay, we won't count that one since it's a legit loan. The others, let me run through them. There are a ton of illegal names popping up.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 07:14

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Sharlene,

Here is a sample wage assignment letter that one of our members posted...you can use this as a guide

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/paydayloan/online-lenders.html

and here is a letter to use with the pdls which you can use as a guide as well, you will need to change the information and laws to meet your needs

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/paydayloan/need-checklist-1.html


lrhall41

Submitted by RoxyNY on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 07:25

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Cash Net USA is lending to PA consuemrs under it's Nevada license - I'm sure that's probably been mentioned, but I didn't want to read the first 5 pages of the thread to check.

Payday One is using it's Deleware license.

1st Bank of DE is an installement loan. It's totally legal and different laws apply to it.


lrhall41

Submitted by goudah2424 on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 07:40

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Cash Transfer Centers - not licensed/illegal
my cash now - not licensed/illegal
Cash Today For You - not licensed/illegal
World Wide Cash - not licensed/illegal
PayCheckToday - not licensed/illegal
Cash Advance Network - not licensed/illegal
ameriloan - not licensed/illegal
United Cash Loans - not licensed/illegal
PayDayOnLine - not licensed/illegal


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 07:53

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Okay. I'm editing my posts to keep all the information together. I'm going to show Little Loan Shoppe licensed and Impact Cash licensed. Also CashNet500 is not licensed. Just read that on another thread, so I'll update that also. Just trying to keep everything to where we can read it easily! And, since it's been verified that it is United Cash Loans, they will be put on the unlicensed list....


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 10:53

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Okay. So, do we need to check on licensing for the ones posted above? I'm thinking E PayDay is tied in with CTC (?) or someone illegal (?). Help me remember! Also, Sharlene, the one pdl that gave you two loans - they are BOTH current loans? They gave you one and then gave you another while you were still paying on one? It is the same company/address, correct?


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 10:58

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Damn! I'm ahead of myself! LOL! Wait! Let my head catch up with my a$$! :lol: Okay. So I'll add them to the illegal list. You know what's weird is that they gave Sharlene TWO loans. One before the other was even paid off. Odd. However, when one is illegal, why would they do things that make sense??? Okay, just so that I'm caught up with MYSELF, are the ones left the only ones we need to check on? I'm editing AGAIN right now!


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 11:05

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I've tried to track down some additional information.

Fast Cash Loans - my documents came from fastcash-advance.com; however, my email notification came from PAYDAY-LOAN-YES.COM I don????????t have an address but the phone # 800-550-6051

Discount Advances - Didn't get much more here except it as an "IGottIt.com company" no address but phone # 800-446-8482

E PayDay - e-payday-loan.com, PO Box 571992, Murray, UT 84157. 866.364.9684

Oakmont Funding - Loan & ACH payments are identified as Oakmont Funding; however, an extension form is emailed every 2 weeks from Loan Point Funding 1-800-351-8820. Those emails all include this statement: ???????This entire agreement is constructed under and in accordance with the laws of Utah.???????


lrhall41

Submitted by on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 14:38

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Oakmont Funding
XPRESSCASH
Loan Point USA

2207 Concord Pike # 505
Wilmington, DE 19803

XPRESSCASH
(800) 351-8820
2207 Concord Pike # 505
Wilmington, DE 19803

I'm finding an Xpress Cash Solution, Inc. licensed in Utah. This may be them.

I checked Delaware and did not find them licensed there.

However, your emails state "Utah", so it may well be the one I found licensed in Utah.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 19:36

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I'm trying to review all the posts to prioritze my next steps. Looks like my biggest threat would be Cash Transfer Centers trying to evoke the wage assignment with my company. I have the sample letter that I'm working on now - does it go to HR or Payroll? Who actually has to sign off on it? Also, do I need to include letter to CTC? If so, how do I deal with the pay back issue. I don't want to make one payment, and would prefer setting up a payment plan.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 11:07

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Another question about CTC. Since this loan is paid back in full each time, how do I handle the following paragraph?
I have currently paid XXXX DOLLARS on my XXXX DOLLARS loan. The legal amount that could have been charged to my loan is the principal amount of XXX DOLLARS even if your internet pay day loan was legal in YOUR STATES NAME. I have paid XXXX DOLLARS on this loan by your debits of my bank account and only owe XXXX DOLLARS to have this paid in full. I am willing to pay the amount of XXX DOLLARS to pay the principle amount of the loan only, as advised by my Department of Financial Institutions and my state Attorney General's office.

Can I roll in past loans and overpayments due to inflated finance charges?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 11:52

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Sharlene, First, with the wage assignment, I would give it to both HR and payroll. I am not sure who it will go to but would cover all my bases.

As for the letter, you can change it to meet your needs, if that paragraph does not work with your situation, change it to what it needs to say. The letter is a guide to help you know what to say. I know Cannr had CTC and will be around later. I am sure she will have advice as well.


lrhall41

Submitted by RoxyNY on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 12:02

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One more question about CTC. Even though each loan doesn't have a rollover option, I've had several loans with them over the last 6 months that I have paid in full. Can I consider all of them when I send out my letter - in essence, can I get any 'credit' for past amounts that were paid beyond the principal?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 12:27

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Sharlene, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but nope. They will NOT take any past loans into consideration. Actually, what they will do is claim that you were aware of the terms and conditions and fees and you didn't have a problem then, so why do you have a problem now. That's been my experience with them and others experience with them. That's how they operate. So, just concentrate on the loan you have with them now. They will not take any past loans into consideration. They actually try to hold them against you.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 03/20/2008 - 16:58

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Sharlene, since you've covered your butt with your wage assignment revoke letter and gave a copy to your HR/Payroll, you're fine waiting until Monday. Hell, just as long as you are covered at work so that they won't honor their stupid wage assignment, you can take your time. Monday would be just fine to fax/email/mail CTC. You did the important part - the wage revoke.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Fri, 03/21/2008 - 17:13

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Does anyone have a fax or email address for
MyCash Now?
I have 2 pdl's (Cash Advance Network & Paycheck Today) that are identified as part of MTE Financil Services but not licensed. Who should I be trying to contact to send letters/faxes/emails etc?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 03/24/2008 - 05:12

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I think I'm making progress - I'm ready to send out my letters (faxes & email when avaliable) to any pdl that is currently not licensed. However, that still leaves me with 7 pdl's operating legally in PA:
>2 licensed DE
(pd 806.00 on 350 loan; 340 on 650 loan)

>1 licensed NM
(pd 450 on a 500 loan)

>1 licensed NV
(pd 317 on 500 loan)

>3 licensed UT
(pd 210 on 350 loan; 450 on a 300 loan;
& another 450 on a 300 loan)

How do I go about negotiating a settelment - or do I have to pay back the loans on their terms?


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 03/24/2008 - 14:17

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Sharlene, your first thing is to prevent them from debiting your account. If they can no longer debit that bank account, you're cool. Now that they have no other way to get their money, you can make alternative payment arrangments - whether it be by money order, pre-paid debit card, money gram, or western union. I personally lean towards them giving an address to send money orders to since it's a hell of a lot cheaper. You can TRY for a settlement; however, since they are licensed in those states, they're supposed to follow the pdl law of the state in which they are licensed. Which means the pdl state laws of Delaware, New Mexico, Nevada, and Utah. Which does suck. However, you can always, always try to get a settlement. Tell them how much you've paid already, try to get them to settle for a decent amount to pay it in full. Hell, it's worth a shot and you may actually get a good response.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Mon, 03/24/2008 - 16:36

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Thanks Kashzan, I've taken care of my bank & now I'm in the process of contacting the varrious pdl's. I actually have the letter you posted and have adapted it for any of the companies that wouldn't be considered legal to fund loans to PA residents. I was hoping there was something just a bit less confrontational for those companies that are licensed.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 10:43

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