That is enough!

Oh my gosh!!
Cajun! you are one of the BIGGEST assests to this board! Plz plz plz reconsider this! If not for u, i'm not sure how i cud manage from day to day!
You've helped me along with SO many others and brought our stress levels down SO much! Plz don't leave! Your knowledge is so valuable and can help so many others that dont' have access to your personal email as some of us do!
You've been heaven sent to me and i SO appreciate all the time u've spent helping me, the stupid questions u've answered for me without ever making me feel stupid!
WOW, i'm upset!
Ang

Here we go...

Ok..Now how do I KNOW this is for me? You know what, I did not create the term "old-timer". I don't even use it, so enough of that.

My post was a generalization. Period. There is no need to be rude or harrass people. I never named your name. If you feel guilty, I'm sorry about that.

As far as support goes, I have bit my tongue many times. I will not and have not bash another moderator..Or any member for that matter..On this board. That is a bunch of crap.

And..Who exactly are you protecting us from? That's what I want to know.

Wow, you walk away from the computer for a few minutes and look what happens. I'm tired of the generalization against us "old-timers". This is a term that has been created and not by us. I can't say I haven't had my issues with some other members but I've been trying to keep that in private. I haven't read this post and I really don't care if I am overstepping my bounds here. I'm just sick and tired of this crap! Cajun, you have done a great job with helping people deal with collection agencies. This has been a great asset to the forum. Fins, you just plain rock and you know it, girl! Now, I'm going to be snoopy and go find this post.

Here we go again..... :roll:

"Why can't we all just get along?"....Rodney King

NO ONE was attacking you, Cajun. It was a simple statement that there's too much post deleting going on. And there is. Posts that are in violation of the TOS and are inflammatory or vulgar SHOULD be deleted....but perhaps, just perhaps, some of them should be left so the members can deal with them? Just an idea.

Thanks Sue and Mishele.

Well, I agree with you Sue :-) I've been on here more than usual this week and there seems to be heavy discussions about some of us moderators who don't delete enough. I don't get it because there is not spam like there used to be. What's wrong with a healthy debate anyway?

Absolutely nothing..Back in October I was told that as long as there was nothing personal, it should be left. I can easily pull that thread up again. Maybe I will.

not a gosh-darned thing, Mishele! I think debate is very healthy - and it should be a part of this forum.

Unfortunately, though, debate sometimes gets turned into what we see here.

fins, please do - that's probably a good idea.

Personally, the only thing I delete is spam.

ok..Let me look for it...

Ok Sue..Basically, I thought negative stuff should be deleted...I was told a lot of it should be left for free speech..I agree now. Anyway, maybe this doesn't matter anymore, but here it is.

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/pub/about15369.html

And.......I so agree with the three of you. My only question is how do people delete undesirable things that are said to them in real life? There is no delete button. I know I don't need protection, I don't take things said on a forum and let it ruin my day.

I don't go around deleting posts that I have a strong disagreement with, I will either respond or I won't respond. Especially if there are no derogatory or threatening statements made. Again, my question, "How do people cope in real life when something is said that they don't agree with?" I'm willing to bet they can't hit a delete button and take another's freedom of speech away.

It DOES matter, Fins - your opinion is very valued!

I see the logic in that thread - that negative posts, although irritating, annoying, and sometimes downright infuriating, should probably be left alone, for the simple fact that if we delete them, the OP has "won" - they "got our goat" so to speak - by making us feel we should delete them.

I hope this little battle will subside with this - but I've made up my mind about the negative post issue. They won't be deleted by me, but I'll be taking the high road and not responding to them either. I'd much rather spend my time doing what this forum is supposed to be doing - helping people seeking advice on credit and debt issues. :-)

Very good post, Steelers! I like the delete button analogy! :-)

I agree with Steelers. (LMAO!)

This is a forum, the internet. Why on earth should something that happens online affect us?

Let's just all get over ourselves. If anyone wants to "quit" that's their decision. I'm not going to grovel. Everyone can take things the way they want to, It just isn't that big of a deal. This is so tiresome.

Steelers,

You make a very valid point. Life happens and we have to deal with it. We can't delete the bad stuff and just deal with the good. Fins, thanks for bringing up the old topic. YOU ROCK! SUE YOU ROCK! STEELERS YOU ROCK ! Gosh, if we were all the same, wouldn't that be a bit boring. The only thing I've been deleting lately is duplicating postings. If it's not a personal attack, then it should be left. I'm really feeling like this forum is becoming segregated and that is not the purpose!

You got it. I agree with you, Mishele. :D

Sue, mishele, Steelers..YOU ROCK!!!!

I agree with you too, Fins! Sue, I agree with you! Steelers, I agree with you too!
:)

Ok, so we ALL rock....LOL

Sorry, it had to be said. :lol:

I hope we can, as Fins said, "get over ourselves" and move on to what we do best - helping others! :-)

(and you ladies know I just love y'all to pieces - you make this place great!)

I can't get over myself now...I rock too much! :D

Fins has always had ego problems.... I've created a monster but yes you do rock LOL!!! I'm rockin' in chat if anyone wants to join this old-timer LMAO!

Maybe I'm just too old..I can't get in.

I do not have ego problems!!!!!

Remember Mishele: When you point a finger at me, you have 3 pointing back at you! LMFAO!

You really need to work on your jealousy..I'm not THAT much cooler than you.

Yes, Everybody rocks!
And I can see all points here. I for one am glad to see the rude comments and flames deleted. We don't need them, period. We do need to have honest debate--and we all have the right to disagree, as long as we are not hurtful and sarcastic to other members while doing it.
And when collectors come here and call us all a bunch of deadbeat losers who never pay our bills, yes, I for one have a problem with that, because I know that's hurtful and it's not true. But if someone wants to share a good experience they've had with a collector, that is different and should be posted. If we didn't, we would be no better than those collectors like Pay Your Bills and others who make those statements about us. It works both ways.
I respect all moderators for their invaluable contributions to the board and want to thank Cajun here for his help to me. He has always responded to me promptly with questions and his info is always spot-on, as everyone's is. So I really hope he and everyone stays.

Everyone here just needs to agree to disagree. We are all very different people and personalities and opinions are bound to clash(especially when I am 9 months pregnant and take things personally...but soon those hormones will even out LOL). Caj-I will miss ya so much! You know you are my hero!

Fins,

You used my own line against me LMAO!! I'm doubly jealous now. Does that mean there are six fingers pointing at me now? :shock:

KS, I couldn't agree with you more. Everything you said is true. The "old timers" as well as some of the "new timers" including you, Cajun, have given valuable advice to me as well as other members here, and I just hate to see conflicts between members. I for one couldn't have gotten through the times I did without the help of several members here who have given excellent advice as well as moral support. I feel very fortunate to have found this site and being able to "meet" the wonderful people here. I, for one, feel blessed to be a member of this forum.

cajun, you are the greatest. I will miss you terribly but will be in touch. :cry:

I'm old, so forgive me-but what am I not supporting? I just read Cajuns post and can't figure out what or who I am not supporting. I try to support everyone here. I definately do not like labels-we are all here for the same reason-to get help and support each other, or at least I am. I have stated I will not reply to negative posts, or those I don't agree with, unless it goes against TOS rules. Life is too short to be angry and get upset over over little things- How important will this be in 5 years? We all need to remember new ones coming here and try to keep negative comments about the board or others to ourselves, or PM Vikas or Mike. I wouldn't want to see negative info from a place I was trying to get help from. Love you all..Karen :D

Thanks for the input,both yea & nea.My friends know how to reach me.I will monitor here and continue to help when I can.The moderating will be left to someone else.

I am on the side of 'who cares?'-- Why are you going to let some idiot poster ruin your day?? Nobody will ever be able to control what people say on here, and we're just kidding ourselves if we think that we actually can control the inevitable. Two cliches and then I'm done: 1) "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me." -- When it gets to a point that people here are going to let a few words on the screen make them feel bad, then I say 2) "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

To quote Diana Ross, (I think), "Enough is enough, I can't go on, I can't go on......"

Good sentiment, Steelers, but wasn't that Donna Summer??

LOL, yes Donna Summers. LOL

LMAO!! I had that album when I was a kid..I loved "Love to love you, baby.." I stole that album from my big sister, maybe 5 yrs after it was popular. I bet my parents didn't know what kind of dirty song I was listening to!

dirty girl you are! lol

You know I am dirty.

Ok....Lets get back on task to helping others who need us!

This post is in the Pub. Anything goes.

Allow me to say this. If you want to yell at me or correct me, please do. I am a big boy - I want to hear if someone has an opposite viewpoint:

When I mod a forum, I will do one of four things. mostly, I will edit a post ans remove personal info (soc sec #, email, phone #, bank info - you get the idea). That is about 90% or my mod-ing. Next comes spam. Those - I just purge. Useless. Waste. Not really worth any members making a joke about it. Third comes deleting flaming posts. My simple reason for this is I will not tolerate that kind of talk. If you can't be a big boy or girl and discuss something rationally without degrading to childish name calling or slanderous words, then you don't have the right to say anything. Now, if real life, we would walk away. And that is good. My reason for deleting is that I will not let the foul words be history for anyone to read. As I have said many a time - this forum is not government sponsored, so freedom of speech doesn't apply. The last thing I will do I lock a thread that has totally lost it's direction or has become a childish b*tch fest. AS Barney Fife says "You gotta nip it in the bud!". And I do just that.

That is how I mod. I hope it is acceptable. If not, PM me or ask me anything. I am more than happy to discuss anything. Except the White Sox bullpen. Grrrrrr....

Hey - have you rad my blog? You should. It's all stupid crap. Enjoy it in the link below. :)

Jeff, that's how I mod as well. I think a healthy debate is fine...As long as it's healthy and doesn't resort to name calling. Our point is...It's not fair to delete something just because you don't support the opinion!

You're a little weird, but your moderating skills are fine.

once again, Fins, you took the words right out of my mouth....especially the last line! LOL

LOL, I was wrong about one thing though...he's not just a LITTLE weird.

Good Lord - I am off the computer for a few days and all hell breaks loose. I agree - a good debate can clear the air and I have never really noticed that there were posts deleted. But I think that one of the reasons that I am here is because of all of the wonderful advice and support that I have gotten and I have learned alot too. Yes there are times that I get offended, but I will ususally post a reply with my point of view. I think that that is why we are all here - as in the saying two heads are better than one - what works for me may not work for the next person, but it might help someone else. Cajun if you feel this way, it is a shame, because you have been a font of knowlege. You have posted things that have been very helpful, and while some things may not apply to my situation, I have tucked the info away for future reference.

Irish, I've missed you!! Amazing what can go down when you're gone, isn't it?

Thanks fins - I've had one of those weeks where I am trying to shove 10 pounds of sh@#t into a 5 pound bag!

I'm sorry sweetie..Look on the bright side..At least it's only sh!t.

I hope things are better for you next week.

Like a bad kidney stone this too shall pass.

Good!!

Is there any such thing as a GOOD kidney stone? I had one about ten years ago, and it really hurt like a b!%@h. I can only imagine what a man would go through to pass one.

OOWEE - that hurts me to even think about it!