Paul Kupferstein - Mr. David - EBSI- 900 Number Dialers
Date: Wed, 11/30/2005 - 09:24
Unauthorized and evasive charges have been placed there by these organizations via the malicious dialer which accesses international 900 number sites. The only time when you are made aware of this activity is when you receive your monthly telephone bill.
The general rule of thumb is: when you challenge these bozo's (Aggregators) after their uneducated telephone reps accuse you or someone else in your household of accessing pornograhic websites, they tend to back down and credit your account (without any word of apology of course). You would tend to believe that this was the end of the matter.
Not so I am afraid, because waiting in the wings, months later are the lowlife bottom feeding debt collectors. These unsrupolous characters buy up old telephone records and debt from even more unscrupolous vendors and go after for what they can get. This is where you may have had a call from a Mr.David or others threatening you with lawsuits, disconnecting your phone line and further harrassment, without fully identifying himself or their client, which is the law.
If you do not challenge this moron on initial contact he may stay on the line long enough to tell you he represents the law firm of a Paul Kupferstein & Associates. Otherwise, he hangs up. The phone number they tend to call on is (905) 474 3535. Investigation of the number gives the address as follows:
Liability Solutions Inc
4981 HWY 7 East
Unit 12A, Suite 267
Markham, Ontario
L3R 1N1 Canada
Thats right Canada, They are also located at several other addresses including PO Boxes, and they are all located in the Markham area. They tend to move around a lot! For peace of mind call the RCMP Phonebusters 1-888-495-8501 or Recol 1(888) 495-8501 hotlines (same number) and your State Attorney General. The Law Society of Upper Canada are also very interested to hear from you. (416) 947 3310. They and the RCMP are very much aware of the activities of these scam artists in their area. This is total fraud and none of it would stand in a court of law. They are preying on vulnerability and fear using scripted scare tactics. Just ask your Attorney Generals office.
This thread has been started to put a case history together on victims and consumers they have targeted. If you are a victim please highlight your case on this forum so that we can get a portfolio of sorts on these crooks, and present it to the relevant authorities, and for general peace of mind. The more people who make complaints the more likely they will get investigated and have their illegal operation shut down. Take note they will infiltrate this forum with bogus victims who apparently ended up paying them after going through the courts. It does not happen! For further information on Kuperferstein and Co. check out further listings about them on this website through the following link:
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/about2990.html
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Fear is the Key......Lets unlock it! |
It looks to me as though the Guest (2 above) is a disgruntled ex
It looks to me as though the Guest (2 above) is a disgruntled ex-employee of this company.
At a loss for words to the 2 comments above, tired of trying to
At a loss for words to the 2 comments above, tired of trying to get through to people who consistently don't get it.
No point apparently in posting an intelligent comment as it doesn't seem to sink in to some it seems.
Ya just as I suspected - disgruntled ex-employee! It makes perf
Ya just as I suspected - disgruntled ex-employee! It makes perfect sence. Someone that used to work for this company is pissed and now posts on here pretending to be some helpless victim. I know there are others, but it looks the quite a few of them are from this person and he/she was probably fired.
Guest (above) do you need a job? LOL
Ahhh....the simple joy of an IP trace. Is there nothing finer?
Ahhh....the simple joy of an IP trace. Is there nothing finer?
Think what you will - apparently, not much. I was indeed cont
Think what you will - apparently, not much.
I was indeed contact by a Mr. David sometime back trying to get a large sum out money out of me. The rest is history but you've obviously made up your mind that I am someone I am not.
Jedijeff, I am so disappointed in you of all people I would figure YOU would know who was on the right side of the fence. I guess I can't get any help or support from you. It is too bad because I am in the same boat as you whether you choose to believe it or not.
This forum/topic has gone down hill/stale with no results which is truly sad.
Actually, Guest, my comment was not a reference to you. I am sur
Actually, Guest, my comment was not a reference to you. I am sure this company screwed you over (or at least attempted to). I totally support you and believe the same thing happened to you that happened to me. I apologize if you thought otherwise.
My comment is just that the other other guest can make whatever statements he wants that you are a former disgruntled employee. Funny he should make that statement....
Sorry Jedi for doubting you - I should have known better and not
Sorry Jedi for doubting you - I should have known better and not let then try and be manipulative.
Poor judgement on my part. Just sick and tired of the continual !@#$ - it is rather pathetic that they have nothing better to do then stir the pock with meaningless nothings.
Just laugh like I do. Makes it fun. They only control and manipu
Just laugh like I do. Makes it fun. They only control and manipulate us when we let them.
And no problem, buddy.
Not even worthy of an intelligent comment. I see the !@#$'s are
Not even worthy of an intelligent comment. I see the !@#$'s are back!
The original claim of this forum was to help people - I fail to
The original claim of this forum was to help people - I fail to see how any of this has ever helped anyone.
I agree with you, Charline. Personal attacks are useless and do
I agree with you, Charline. Personal attacks are useless and do nothing but exhibit the complete lack of intelligence the poster has.
Jedi - your post, although I'm sure not intended, is a personal
Jedi - your post, although I'm sure not intended, is a personal attack on the Guest that posted above.
Actually, it was more an attack on the person that called us "Lo
Actually, it was more an attack on the person that called us "Losers". I am sure the other guest was smart enough to see that.
My post is directed at people who, out of the blue, BEGIN the personal attacks. Responses and retaliations, however, are spared from my wraith.
Explain! I have read the topic and didn't see anywhere Jeff m
Explain!
I have read the topic and didn't see anywhere Jeff making loose comments as a moderator. He is doing perfect job. You need to prove what you have to say. And please keep it constructive.
Oh Please. He says that personal attacks are useless, only to f
Oh Please. He says that personal attacks are useless, only to follow that comment with 'the complete lack of intelligence the poster has' which is a personal attack.
I see you have a cheer leading section Jedi - good on you.
You are a ............. Can you tell me what I wanted to say?
You are a .............
Can you tell me what I wanted to say? It is up to you if you want to read it in a good or bad way.
Quoting a single line doesn't prove anything. My son who is 7 years old also does something like this when he wants to get a gift.
Fine - let me correct myself. Personal attacks are useless. M
Fine - let me correct myself.
Personal attacks are useless. Making such attacks gives people the impression that you don't have constructive information to debate and instead make the recipient of your comments feel low.
Is that better, darling?
Charline, you said: Quote:I fail to see how any of this has eve
Charline, you said:
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I fail to see how any of this has ever helped anyone. |
Can you explain what you mean? I don't want to misread what you are saying.
***** Guest posted "LOSER'S get a life please" and then Guest po
***** Guest posted "LOSER'S get a life please" and then Guest posted "Not even worthy of an intelligent comment. I see the !@#$'s are back!"
"The original claim of this forum was to help people -I fail to see how any of this has ever helped anyone."
I think it's self explanitory.
"Actually, it was more an attack on the person that called us "L
"Actually, it was more an attack on the person that called us "Losers". I am sure the other guest was smart enough to see that."
You got that right Jedi, I am smart enough to see that despite what Charline tries to brew up. Then again, I look at where it is coming from.
Furthermore and in addition to others comments, you ARE foing a
Furthermore and in addition to others comments, you ARE foing a fine job Jedi and are in a class well above you know whos. Glad to see you don't let them get to you as they seem to have nothing better to do but come on here when they say they never will again . . . . and we all know who that is right Charline?!
Quote:I think it's self explanitory. Like I said - I don't wan
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I think it's self explanitory. |
Like I said - I don't want to misread you, so that is why I am asking for clarification.
Jedi, I thought those posts were uncalled for - both of them. T
Jedi, I thought those posts were uncalled for - both of them. That's all. There are a lot of very mean people out there.
I agree there are a lot of mean people out there. But I don't se
I agree there are a lot of mean people out there. But I don't see how my post is uncalled for. I am just asking what you mean. See - I interpret it two ways. And one is not very nice said by you and the other IS nice said by you.
I just want to make sure what you said.
Which is why I am asking for the third time. You keep avoidin
Which is why I am asking for the third time.
You keep avoiding the question, and that makes me assume you mean that phrase in an unfriendly manner.
Forgive me Jedi, but I don't know what you are talking about. T
Forgive me Jedi, but I don't know what you are talking about. Two (2) Guests above posted things that we not productive. I simply stated the fact that these types of posts are not helpful. How is that unfriendly?
Thank you. That is one of the two things I thought you meant. I
Thank you. That is one of the two things I thought you meant. I appreciate the clarification.
I can't recall when I have been a bully but apparently you feel
I can't recall when I have been a bully but apparently you feel that way Charline - and truly I couldn't care less. You feel that what you preach is the truth and the only truth so I suppose when you have your bluff called and cannot produce a valid response, the only thing for you to do (which you have also done on many occassions) is turn around and lay blame or accusations on someone else to take the heat off of you.
Truth hurts huh. Just calling your bluff once again as how you DID mention on many occassions that you were not going to post anymore. Just wondering why you are still here and posting the same old stuff yet again. Take that however way you want because if you feel anything I have said is bullying, then you need to get thicker skin because you apparently are able to dish it out to others on a daily basis but can't seem to take it in return.
Charline--Why don't you get off the moral high ground and take a
Charline--Why don't you get off the moral high ground and take a hike from this site?? The #1 posting in this thread was composed over a year ago when your cronies were trying to extort monies in the 900# scam from your "OFFICE" ....PERIOD!!!! We do not care if you were there at the time or not!!!
Everyone who GOOGLES knows all about your unprofessional practices.You were busted months ago .....Get this NO ONE listens to you!!!
Now kindly have a very Merry Christmas and buzz off for 2007!!!!!
If you don't care then simply do not comment or repond to my pos
If you don't care then simply do not comment or repond to my posts.
jedijeff13
jedijeff13 is a great member.God will blessing him
every day and night because he is a winner and all members of this forum are winners.
i think this forum make a big difference in the lives of many people that look for help in this forum of debt consolidation CARE that really cares about good people.
my husband became blind and mentally ill and he didnt kill himself because of this forum .
i dont think is fair tell my husband he goes to prison if he didnt pay a debit that was not in his name .
jedijeff13 i really think that honesty is a virtue.eu realmente penso que a honestidade e uma virtude.sorry about my english.
I'm sorry Tania, are you saying that your husband was told by so
I'm sorry Tania, are you saying that your husband was told by someone from the Law Office that he would go to prison if he didn't pay his debt?
Charline - I don't think Tania has had any contact from your co
Charline - I don't think Tania has had any contact from your company. She can answer that better than me, though. But if I recall - her issues are with a totally different collection agency.
Right Tania? Oh - and gracias for your kind words.
Sorry, it's just that the majority of this forum is regarding th
Sorry, it's just that the majority of this forum is regarding the Law Office - Thanks.
No prob. I understand you knee jerk feeling and appreciate you a
No prob. I understand you knee jerk feeling and appreciate you asking her for more info. That shows you want to make right if something was done wrong.
Avoid my question yet again Charline, what are you doing here wh
Avoid my question yet again Charline, what are you doing here when you have stated on many occassions that you will not be back nor posting again - enlighten me, please - if you dare to do so.
Exactly what I figured Charline, talking the talk yet again - no
Exactly what I figured Charline, talking the talk yet again - no wonder people call your bluff.
If my being here bothers you to such degree please feel free to
If my being here bothers you to such degree please feel free to leave. I've come back because I wanted to, and I don't owe you (of all people) an explanation.
You are a bully.
I am just calling your bluff that's pretty much it. Also, as
I am just calling your bluff that's pretty much it.
Also, as most of us know, explanations aren't your specialty especially when there are questions out there you've never bothered to confront, let alone give an answer to.
Think what you will ("bully"), you certainly know the definiation of that comment as for in previous posts you have been like that to some. Again, truth hurts.
P.S. I couldn't care less whether you are here or not as you se
P.S. I couldn't care less whether you are here or not as you seem to be a gluten for punishment. YOU were the one who stated you wouldn't come back on here and deal with us because we lie about our situations and you do no wrong but preach the truth.
I was just questioning why you are here - but apparently, this will be another question unanswered by you - surprise, surprise.