I hadn't realized there was a difference either. Last summer we started with a debt settlement company, but that's a different story. I know it's a drastic move, but we had some closed credit card accts that we were paying $100 or so a month on, that had been closed for 2-3 yrs, and the balance dropped $500. When I realized I had paid over $2000, on an acct that only had a $2000 balance to begin with I was mad. Later found that when Providian traded the acct to a different portfolio, they changed the interest rate to 36%, from 17%. It was supposed to be locked by my having the acct closed.